Tanner Glass
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It didn't, Rupp was on his last legs as a Ranger, but at the same time he was a part of that team's identity, and that team had one of the best regular seasons in franchise history.
I like Mike Rupp the guy, but Mike Rupp the hockey player did his job, unfortunately he couldn't give more than 5 minutes a night.
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I'd love to see a list of players who sign a 3 year contract as a free agent and then never play a game for the organization that signed them.
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Nope--Rissmiller played 2 games with the Rangers and 70 games with Hartford. And in those days part of a player's salary didn't count against the cap in the AHL.
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Something to note:
The Rangers signed Glass with the following salaries:
1.9M year 1
1.45M year 2
1.0M year 3
After this year, his real cap # drops to 1.225M.
My guess? Sather and Gorton know that they can unload him at that salary moving forward if need be and they needed someone to come in who can play responsible defensive hockey, hit, fight and play 40-50 games for just this season.
They were able to trade Dorsett for a draft pick in a draft where they had few and able to replace him for a smaller cap hit for right now.
In this division you need someone who can answer the bell when called upon still. It's not all skill. Glass gives AV that option.
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His cap number stays the same throughout, though his contract structure makes him easier to unload after this season if they realize the error of their ways. I explored that in depth in July.
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What I meant by his real cap number was his internal cap number for a team with an internal cap
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I'm not convinced either. Do not think he stuck with Vancouver, so that may say something. I think Sather said, hey, let's try to get a draft pick for Dorsett because we do not have many and we can always find a UFA to fill his spot. So Sather asks about Glass, and AV says he's smart, good character guy who works hard, hits, fights and skates well but has limited offensive skills, and Sather loves most of those attributes and here he is.
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Every player who played on and left Vancouver during AV's time there is a favorite.
Whatever team he coaches next, the fans will probably claim MDZ is a favorite.
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Right. Deals like this let Rangers leverage their willingness to spend 'outside' of the Cap.
They did this with Brassard contract, as well, i believe, paying lots more earlier in the deal than later.
So team you trade him to can consume full AAV (annualized averaged Cap hit) Cap space, perhaps to meet the floor, but actually spends notably less 'real' dollars.
But I still think he's a bad signing, I cant see any outcome that convinces me it wasn't a mistake.
You guys obviously missed all the good things Slats and AV said about him. Besides, who's gonna fight if Tanner is not in the lineup...Zucc?
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It's pretty rare for a team to bash a player they just signed.
No one. And nothing bad would happen.
AV made some positive comments about this signing. I don't think he's a liar, he obviously knows this player well.
And about the fighting, I'm tired of watching us gettin slapped around because we don't have an answer for the goons.
And about the fighting, I'm tired of watching us gettin slapped around because we don't have an answer for the goons.
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All coaches are liars.
The answer to goons is to play better hockey than them and take advantage when they're on the ice, as opponents have been doing to Glass since he entered the league.
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It's obviously tougher to isolate players influence in hockey than baseball, but a good place to start to look at how other players performed with that individual on the ice as opposed to off of it.
If you add up all Glass' forward linemates from 2013-14, the difference when you put Glass beside them is an average of -2.69 CF/20 and +0.91 CF/20. Last season the Rangers converted 1 out of every 27.25 shot attempts for into goals and had one out of every 26.82 shot attempts against go in. So if you were to superimpose Glass' 678 ES minutes onto the 2013-14 Rangers, my best estimate is it would mean -3.35 GF and +1.15 GA, or 4.5 goals worse than a league average player.
