Post-Game Talk: Take care of Lu, Hockey Gods. Panthers destroy Bruins 5-0

[I am not exposed]

Overpaid in my opinion. Ekblad too.

Ekblad definitely is.

Yandle is well worth the money for what he provides at the moment. Probably a bit undervalued atm. At the end of the contract, sure. But he was a UFA Dman, and the best one available that season.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I'm a big Hawk fan, but i would call uo greco. His pro game is more polished and we need all the points we can get right now.

 

[vendetta]

Yandle value is good. He is ppg right now. An elite offensive dman. Also ek getting way too much hate on here. He is
Solidifying himself as a good top pair d man. This is his best year defensively. He is rarely out of position. He’s smart usually always makes the right play. His hands puck control and scoring is elite for d man. He’s rounding
Into a great two way dman. This team
Would be f***ed without him but most here wouldn’t realize it until we didn’t have him

 

[Mogo]

Bjugstad is fine. The other 2 for sure need to go. I’m not even a big Bjugstad fan but he’s been playing well.

Bjugstad has 3 points in his last 14 games. 1 points in the last 10 games

Yeah, he's doing just fine.

The fact he can hold the puck a bit more player against other teams lower lines don't mean nothing with the salary he's making. Thank god he's out of the top 6

 

[Gentle Man]

Ekblad definitely is.

Yandle is well worth the money for what he provides at the moment. Probably a bit undervalued atm. At the end of the contract, sure. But he was a UFA Dman, and the best one available that season.

I actually voted for the guy to be the next captain last season.
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I just am not a fan of paying for one-way players. He is elite in one end of the ice only. But, Ce La vie, that is what "market value" was I guess.

I do think that contract is going to suck eventually though. A 3rd pair PP specialist.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Yandle and Ekblad have both been MUCH better defensively and protecting the puck lately. Much, much better.

I thought Yandle was downright reckless with the puck earlier in the season and Ekblad was clearly just struggling out of the gate. Give them credit, they've really settled it down.

 

[I am not exposed]

I actually voted for the guy to be the next captain last season.
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I just am not a fan of paying for one-way players. He is elite in one end of the ice only. But, Ce La vie, that is what "market value" was I guess.

I do think that contract is going to suck eventually though. A 3rd pair PP specialist.

I think his defense is underrated. He's obviously elite offensively, but he's still good defensively. Smart player with the stick. Sure, he makes mistakes, but every Dman does. I guess one of the big complaints is his lack of clearing the net and hitting. I really think this is minor grumble for a player who provides overall so much to the team.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Bjugstad has 3 points in his last 14 games. 1 points in the last 10 games

Yeah, he's doing just fine.

The fact he can hold the puck a bit more player against other teams lower lines don't mean nothing with the salary he's making. Thank god he's out of the top 6

I’m not disagreeing but if we’re jsut moving him to move him it makes no sense.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Overpaid in my opinion. Ekblad too.

We have to do the Campbell vs Yandle poll in a couple years if/when Yandle plays some playoff games for the Panthers.

What are his recent comparables to points vs contract?

I actually voted for the guy to be the next captain last season.
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I just am not a fan of paying for one-way players. He is elite in one end of the ice only. But, Ce La vie, that is what "market value" was I guess.

I do think that contract is going to suck eventually though. A 3rd pair PP specialist.

How can you say that with his current iron man streak? I'd say maybe the last year may sting but still think Gildon and Stillman are ways away from knocking Yandy down to the 3rd pairing. Who's gonna knock him down in the next 2-3 years?

 

[FrolikFan67]

Ekblad definitely is.

Yandle is well worth the money for what he provides at the moment. Probably a bit undervalued atm. At the end of the contract, sure. But he was a UFA Dman, and the best one available that season.

absolutely agreed on yandle (and ekblad too, hes over paid but thats what he was worth at that time...after 2 years. shouldve waited the full 3 years in hindsight before signing him)

overall, id keep kis, weegar, yandle, ekblad too (i mean, id definitely move him depending on the return, but his d imo isnt terrible, just nothing more than average, and hes a good goal scorer). i just wish we could switch out matheson and petrovic/pysyk for something else on the market.

 

[FrolikFan67]

still early, but we're over 1/4 of the way through the season. how the fantastic four are tracking through 26 games so far:

Barkov on pace for 31.5g / 82pt
Hoffman on pace for 44g / 82pt
Dadonov on pace for 41g / 85pt
Huberdeau on pace for 22g / 97.7pt

Yandle on pace for 12.5g / 78.8pt
Ekblad on pace for 15.75g / 34.7pt

vatrano is on pace for over 25g, and mccann has been heating up the past 9 games. brouwer is doing well too. the other 5 could produce more (sceviour though he did create the first goal last night, juho, haley, all 4th line guys so not too bad. so mostly vatrano and mccann need to keep up their offense, and bjugstad and hunt need to start chipping in).

 

[RogerRoger]

We have to do the Campbell vs Yandle poll in a couple years if/when Yandle plays some playoff games for the Panthers.

What are his recent comparables to points vs contract?

2015:
Giordano: 6.75M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Erik Johnson: 6M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Boychuck: 6M
Green: 6M
Petry: 5.5M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Sekera: 5.5M

2016:
Byfuglien: 7.6M (same team, sign during the Winter of his last season under contract)
Goligoski: 5.475M
Yandle: 6.35M
Hedman: 7.875M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Burns: 8M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)

2017:
Shattenkirk: 6.65M
Vlasic: 7M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)

Imo, guys that sign for their current team during the hockey year are taking a discount to some degree (peace of mind case of serious injury) and are not really comparable.
So the comparable are; Sekera, Green, Boychuck ,Goligoski, Shattenkirk. Imo, Yandle was better than any of them and is still better than any of them. Boychuck was really good, but he was old and declining when he signed and that deal has only been good for 1 year and a half. So it's a good enough contract and a rare opportunity to get a guy like that.
In 2018 no marquee UFA dmen hit July 1st, the closest thing to it is Carlson who signed for 8M to stay with the Caps before july 1st.

 

[FinlandPanther]

As much as I’ve hated Ekblad. He’s been great lately.

 

[Gentle Man]

2015:
Giordano: 6.75M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Erik Johnson: 6M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Boychuck: 6M
Green: 6M
Petry: 5.5M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Sekera: 5.5M

2016:
Byfuglien: 7.6M (same team, sign during the Winter of his last season under contract)
Goligoski: 5.475M
Yandle: 6.35M
Hedman: 7.875M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)
Burns: 8M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)

2017:
Shattenkirk: 6.65M
Vlasic: 7M (same team, sign during the Summer of his last season under contract)

Imo, guys that sign for their current team during the hockey year are taking a discount to some degree (peace of mind case of serious injury) and are not really comparable.
So the comparable are; Sekera, Green, Boychuck ,Goligoski, Shattenkirk. Imo, Yandle was better than any of them and is still better than any of them. Boychuck was really good, but he was old and declining when he signed and that deal has only been good for 1 year and a half. So it's a good enough contract and a rare opportunity to get a guy like that.
In 2018 no marquee UFA dmen hit July 1st, the closest thing to it is Carlson who signed for 8M to stay with the Caps before july 1st.

Yandle was technically a Panther before he signed

Where was the discount?

 

[GermanPanther]

We have to do the Campbell vs Yandle poll in a couple years if/when Yandle plays some playoff games for the Panthers.

What are his recent comparables to points vs contract?

I hope we never compare Yandle Contract to Campbell contract, cause that makes not a single second sense.
Campbell Contract was a overpaying must, to reach the Capfloor. While Yandle Contract was willed to pay him and when we pay a Defensman who helped our PP and is current a near Point per Game Player. And when he keeps it up or have a few Games without a Point, he still reach again 50+ Points.
By the Way also a smal difference between Yandle and Campbell, Yandle get better Points from Season to Season. while Campbell was droping with Points.

Ekblad current plays a better 2 way Game and not more his straight offensive game. What give Ekblad less Points this Season but better 2 Way Game.


But this Team has so much up and downs, that i want to wait till TDL to say who plays 100% or not. Current Petrovic and Pysyk would be the most Questable Players. Only Pysyk Contract is cheap.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I hope we never compare Yandle Contract to Campbell contract, cause that makes not a single second sense.
Campbell Contract was a overpaying must, to reach the Capfloor. While Yandle Contract was willed to pay him and when we pay a Defensman who helped our PP and is current a near Point per Game Player. And when he keeps it up or have a few Games without a Point, he still reach again 50+ Points.
By the Way also a smal difference between Yandle and Campbell, Yandle get better Points from Season to Season. while Campbell was droping with Points.

Ekblad current plays a better 2 way Game and not more his straight offensive game. What give Ekblad less Points this Season but better 2 Way Game.


But this Team has so much up and downs, that i want to wait till TDL to say who plays 100% or not. Current Petrovic and Pysyk would be the most Questable Players. Only Pysyk Contract is cheap.

If you look at our cap situation in 2016-17, Yandle's contract taken away has us over the cap floor of $54 million at $59 million.

Then ask yourself why they took on Kindl with $3million in salary and $2million cap hit while giving Reimer and Demers inflated deals with big term. This was to help with Ekblad and Matheson's ELC (925k each) so you can argue Yandle was pretty close to a cap floor move.

I'll continue to say Yandle > Campbell. Not by a huge margin but a decent enough one. Both of them have incredible durability as a Panther player.

 

[Boothinator]

Panthers’ Huberdeau is playing best hockey of his career


Nice article about Huby

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Panthers’ Huberdeau is playing best hockey of his career


Nice article about Huby

That's some great company there

Also, "16 points in 8 games, second only to Kucherov."
So hot right now. Wow.

 

[GermanPanther]

If you look at our cap situation in 2016-17, Yandle's contract taken away has us over the cap floor of $54 million at $59 million.

Then ask yourself why they took on Kindl with $3million in salary and $2million cap hit while giving Reimer and Demers inflated deals with big term. This was to help with Ekblad and Matheson's ELC (925k each) so you can argue Yandle was pretty close to a cap floor move.

I'll continue to say Yandle > Campbell. Not by a huge margin but a decent enough one. Both of them have incredible durability as a Panther player.

And still Campbell is not yandle. But Yandle and Demers also Reimers was not picked about Capfloor Situation, all 3 Players was picked by will. And FA always means you overpay them.
Still a difference, between a 3 Player possible cap floor movve and a single player contract capfloor must trade.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

And still Campbell is not yandle. But Yandle and Demers also Reimers was not picked about Capfloor Situation, all 3 Players was picked by will. And FA always means you overpay them.
Still a difference, between a 3 Player possible cap floor movve and a single player contract capfloor must trade.

But if we didn't sign Reimer and Demers we would have been right around the cap floor. Not the exact same situation as Campbell but similar.

Even further under the floor if we didnt sign Yandle.
Either way both Yandle and Campbell have been great additions to the team when brought over.

 

[Gentle Man]

Undefeated since I started taking the train the work after moving into my home.

Just saying.

 

[Gentle Man]

I'll continue to say Yandle > Campbell. Not by a huge margin but a decent enough one. Both of them have incredible durability as a Panther player.

I'm of the strong, unmovable position that Soup was the best D Man to we ever had.

If your saying Yandle is now that I am blocking you.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Undefeated since I started taking the train the work after moving into my home.

Just saying.

Trade your car in and we'll probably win the cup lol.

 

[Asheville]

I'm of the strong, unmovable position that Soup was the best D Man to we ever had.

If your saying Yandle is now that I am blocking you.

Still Svehla, newbie Panthers fan.

 

[Gentle Man]

Still Svehla, newbie Panthers fan.

LOL.

ME?! NEWBIE?!

LMFAO.

Let's get the obvious out of the way.

Why would any new hockey fan choose the Panthers?