Subban Contract Talk VII

[Shadow Journal]

Whoever says it's not a failure on management's part is out to lunch.

What's out to lunch is assuming you know who's fault it is when we haven't heard any solid info on the numbers from either side.

 

[Rickkins]

On the other hand... kudos to them for giving the fans something to follow during the dog days of summer........

 

[BLONG7]

You say really, really stupid stuff

Thanks for coming out!!

 

[Brainiac]

no worries..... if its meant to be it will be..if not,Habs will get a star back in a trade.

And that's the problem right there. No way we win a trade involving Subban.

 

[Whitesnake]

Llike Dan Kramer just said, if you have to be stupid and sign the guy a 1-year deal...how about you do it yourselves? And not let a 3rd party decide it? That would be awfully dumb....but less dumb than this process right now....

 

[Shaw65]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 17 s

Negotiated settlement between PK/MTL can occur any time before arb ruling (within 48 hrs of hearing) handed down. Otherwise, it's arb award.

 

[onebighockeyfan]

What's out to lunch is assuming you know who's fault it is when we haven't heard any solid info on the numbers from either side.

There you go. Simple but people don't seem to get this.

 

[higgs011]

Maybe this is just a giant PR stunt to keep us interested in August lol

 

[overlords]

first thing arbitrators will say:

"You know that bridge deal was stupid, right?"


*runs away*

 

[Gary320]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 17 s

Negotiated settlement between PK/MTL can occur any time before arb ruling (within 48 hrs of hearing) handed down. Otherwise, it's arb award.

So basically, they have 48 hours to settle a long term deal.

 

[Brainiac]

What's out to lunch is assuming you know who's fault it is when we haven't heard any solid info on the numbers from either side.

Well, from the little bits of info we have, it's quite clear who's being reasonable and who's not.

 

[MaKi]

MB has not been able to get it done in months...another 48 hours isn't gonna help...

I wouldn't say that.

If in fact both sides are playing chicken, when it comes down to the final moment I'm sure someone will give in.
If that's not the case and they just can't see eye to eye on a deal, then yeah another day or two won't change things.

 

[Divine]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 17 s

Negotiated settlement between PK/MTL can occur any time before arb ruling (within 48 hrs of hearing) handed down. Otherwise, it's arb award.

That's not the brightest plan I've ever seen. Can you think of a worse possible time to negotiate a contract other than when you're up there talking about why the player doesn't deserve the money he wants? Most teams avoid arbitration for the damage done...

 

[onebighockeyfan]

Well, from the little bits of info we have, it's quite clear who's being reasonable and who's not.

It all depends if you think 8.5 million for a one RFA year is more reasonable that 5.25. Perfectly down the middle seems reasonable no?

 

[Dr Gonzo]

Is it 48 or 72 hours that both parties have to negociate after the hearing before the arbitrator?

It's until the arbitrator comes to a decision.

Could be up to 48 hours after the conclusion of the hearing, however it could very well be 2 hours after.

 

[Tuggy]

It's definitely sad that PK will be the only case to actually go to arbitration this summer.

 

[BLONG7]

I wouldn't say that.

If in fact both sides are playing chicken, when it comes down to the final moment I'm sure someone will give in.
If that's not the case and they just can't see eye to eye on a deal, then yeah another day or two won't change things.

True, the bottom line is, I am just frustrated with MB...

 

[onebighockeyfan]

That's not the brightest plan I've ever seen. Can you think of a worse possible time to negotiate a contract other than when you're up there talking about why the player doesn't deserve the money he wants? Most teams avoid arbitration for the damage done...

You don't have to spin it this way. You just have to say why you think he's worth what you offer based on comparables and stats. The player does the same, the arbitrator decides. I doubt MB will go in there and say that PK sucks.

 

[RealityBytes]

So basically, they have 48 hours to settle a long term deal.

Actually, a decision is to be made within 48 hrs of the hearing ... it could be made the same or next day. A decision is not made after 48 hrs, 48 hrs is the maximum.

"A decision must be made within 48 hours of the hearing. When the decision is announced, the team has the right to decline, or "walk away" from the award. If the team exercises this right, the player can declare himself an unrestricted free agent."

 

[prairie hab]

Well, from the little bits of info we have, it's quite clear who's being reasonable and who's not.

Don't go there yet.

Don Meehan is a wolf in sheep's clothing. PK said it himself that he was pleased with the communication and tone of the negotiations from the Habs. He also reiterated it was about business now. Meehan wants a piece of the pie too don't forget....

Subban's camp filed remember. There are advantages for both sides in this fact.

 

[Sorinth]

So basically, they have 48 hours to settle a long term deal.

No. It all depends on how long it takes the arbitrator to make up his mind. The max time they have is 48hrs since then arbitrator must render a decision by then but if he comes up with a number sooner then they won't have the 48hrs.

 

[Bob Cole]

Wake up bergevin

 

[Rickkins]

True, the bottom line is, I am just frustrated with MB...

Yea, I gotta admit, bringing an elite player to arbitration seems rather short sighted...

 

[expy]

Wake up bergevin

He's too busy screwin' the team.

 

[habitue*]

We should just follow yesterday P.K advice and chill out. The guy is going to make for sure twice the pay he was making last season. So much worry for a millionnaire paying a sport . In the meantime, in the Middle East and in the heart of Africa....