Proposal: Stone (extended) for Lucic + Pulj + Yamamoto + 1st 2019

[treple13]

haha @ at this assumption.
1st is probably the cost and that too top 5/ lottery protected.

Lucic's 2019 production is already double what he scored all in 2018 so Oilers can tolerate him for a bit longer.

Also, Oilers 1st is not the same as a 1st+ that OTT will eventually get from a contender.

This is just fantasy talk.. OTT will end up with a late 1st + decent prospect + current NHLer with high'ish cap for Stone IMO.

I suspect it you polled every NHL team fanbase, I'll bet you wouldn't find that most teams would accept Lucic+1st+Yamamoto for 7th deal. The problem with a deal like that you have to assume that Lucic is going to get worse as the contract goes along rather than better. Current contending teams don't want that deal as they need the salary cap space. Current rebuilding teams don't want the deal as they likely want to be contenders during the course of the contract. Budget teams with tons of capspace don't want the contract as it's a lot of real $$$.

I also wouldn't expect the Oilers to offer that deal at this point either to be fair, since they don't currently need the space and can't really afford to give up a bunch of future assets.

Lucic is going to be an Oiler for the foreseeable future, and they'll hope that he plays more like his last few weeks than the last few years.

 

[Sparky93]

As a Flames fan, I don’t think the Oilers do it. There’s a lot of value in the 2019 1st.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Klefbom+Spooner+2020 1st
For Stone extended
Come on Sens, defcon Klefbom is on a sweetheart deal, would really bolster your d-Corp moving forward, Spooner sucks chowder through a small caliber straw, but he can be buried in the minors for the last year of his contract, and a first is a first.
If that doesn’t get yer motor running.... what do you want for Drake Batherson?

 

[Chabot84]

Klefbom+Spooner+2020 1st
For Stone extended
Come on Sens, defcon Klefbom is on a sweetheart deal, would really bolster your d-Corp moving forward, Spooner sucks chowder through a small caliber straw, but he can be buried in the minors for the last year of his contract, and a first is a first.
If that doesn’t get yer motor running.... what do you want for Drake Batherson?

Klefbom + Spooner + Pulj + 1st 2019 unprotected

for

Stone (extended) + Dzingle

 

[Flamesjustwin]

Klefbom + Spooner + Pulj + 1st 2019 unprotected

for

Stone (extended) + Dzingle

Can't be done. There is a thing called a salary cap. The Oilers cannot afford Stone or what his contract will be. And no, nobody is taking all of their bad contracts on to give them cap space.

 

[BK201]

Klefbom+Spooner+2020 1st
For Stone extended
Come on Sens, defcon Klefbom is on a sweetheart deal, would really bolster your d-Corp moving forward, Spooner sucks chowder through a small caliber straw, but he can be buried in the minors for the last year of his contract, and a first is a first.
If that doesn’t get yer motor running.... what do you want for Drake Batherson?

Spooner is dead weight no value in fact i dont think it gets it done non extended let alone extended.

 

[OnanTheBarbarian]

Spooner is dead weight no value in fact i dont think it gets it done non extended let alone extended.

Dead weight for one year more. You will hardly know he is there. If you think someone is gonna give better than Klefbom and a 1st for Stone....*cough* Karlsson trade*cough*

 

[Chabot84]

Can't be done. There is a thing called a salary cap. The Oilers cannot afford Stone or what his contract will be. And no, nobody is taking all of their bad contracts on to give them cap space.

Yeah I thought Klefbom was getting paid a lot more... this doesnt work at all haha.. but im here for the deal posted at the top.

But yeah Klefbom.. I don't know what his injury is.. but if hes expected to come back and do his thing then YES.. I would take Klefbom as a center piece in a deal for stone.

 

[LTIR]

Spooner is dead weight no value in fact i dont think it gets it done non extended let alone extended.

Righttt..
Oilers best Dman plus a high first plus cap for a pending UFA.
Great insight

 

[skyo]

Stone (extended) for Lucic + Pulj + Yamamoto + 1st 2019

That's actually pretty decent for the Sens build as long as it's not lotto protected, could have a nice top 10 pick there.

Oil may have to salary retain a bit.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Stone (extended) for Lucic + Pulj + Yamamoto + 1st 2019

We need a third team though; Sens retain on Lucic and send him to a third team for an asset.

Who's the third team?

Ottawa makes out like a bandit here... Oilers get Stone and the third team can have Lucic retained to add some grit to their third line or something.

Discuss.

EDIT: Lucic has full NMC so he has to agree and choose where he is going...

Hell no.

 

[bert]

Hell no.

Great neither team wants to do the deal.

 

[Beerz]

I sincerely do not see Edmonton moving both JP and Yamamoto. One maybe but they’re the only two RW’s of any note in the system.

Oilers would do that deal without thinking twice.

 

[Artanis]

Sounds more realistic than 2 1sts, Wahlstrom and Dobson . . .

More realistic than a 1st and some scraps.

 

[BK201]

Righttt..
Oilers best Dman plus a high first plus cap for a pending UFA.
Great insight

I dont put much stock in you defense so.. its a high first to me.

 

[Draiskull]

I dont put much stock in you defense so.. its a high first to me.

Sure, then swap Klefbom for Russell or OTT can take back Sekera. OTT's defense isnt much better than Edmontons so no need for taking shots.

 

[Chabot84]

Sure, then swap Klefbom for Russell or OTT can take back Sekera. OTT's defense isnt much better than Edmontons so no need for taking shots.

Edmonton is NOT trading Klefbom…. lol no worries. Obviously Ottawa jumps at a trade around Klefbom for Stone.. it isn't happening.

The point of this trade is to make Edmonton better and give the sens some future.. its supposed to work for both teams.

I just bought a Klefbom jersey. That's what I wear to the Edmonton games when I go. Unless they are playing the Sens then I wear my Stone jersey... #$@! brutal eh? Stone for Klefbomb? lol

 

[ThePhoenixx]

I gather that the presumption here is that Stone has no brain and wants to cripple his new team by doing a sign and trade so as to put assets in Ottawa's coffers? I gather he loves Ottawa's owner?

Stone sure is stupid.

 

[BK201]

Sure, then swap Klefbom for Russell or OTT can take back Sekera. OTT's defense isnt much better than Edmontons so no need for taking shots.

Theres no shots I'm not saying we have world beaters here. CECI will be underwhelming but i dont think we can move our 2 best forwards for defense litterally our only top 6 forwsrds left will be tkatchuk and dzingel and not one tod line forward will exist here.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Unsigned, the Sens take it and run.
Lucic would be a huge speed bump though.

 

[BK201]

Sure, then swap Klefbom for Russell or OTT can take back Sekera. OTT's defense isnt much better than Edmontons so no need for taking shots.

I dont think they are targeting defenseman but the trash your offering only furthers my point.

Edit: lol it quoted wrong post.

 

[Chabot84]

Theres no shots I'm not saying we have world beaters here. CECI will be underwhelming but i dont think we can move our 2 best forwards for defense litterally our only top 6 forwsrds left will be tkatchuk and dzingel and not one tod line forward will exist here.

Ottawa needs to get the best assets possible for Stone.. if Edmonton was dumb enough to give us a package around Klefbom that worked for Stone.. its definitely gonna be up there competing with other packages offered.. Making it work with cap is another story all together.

If you really want to make a splash and give Edmonton a top six right now there is another trade:

RNH + Lucic + Yamamoto + 1st 2019 unprotected (wont matter Edmonton makes playoffs here)

for

Stone + Dzingle + Bobby Ryan

No third team needed. Gives Edmonton 3 wingers that can produce at the expense of RNH. Build your Oilers line up looks good IMO and the cap is gonna be close.. this is just a base.

If Lucic wont waive for Ottawa.. let him choose his team and Ottawa will retain on Lucic.. might have to upgrade Yam for Pulj…

With Drai and Mcdavid that's 5 players for your top six...

 

[Meeqs]

Exactly, for starters

1) Not sure Lucic has any value at 50% RETAINED.
2) If EDM retains on Lucic they still have about 69 M committerd to 13 players , add Stone at $9M that takes them to $77-78M for 14 guys with at best $6M to pay 8 or 9 other guys.
3) If Stone won't extend in Ottawa- I doubt he can be convinced to forgo UFA satus to go to EDM

Pretty much from what I saw the funniest things were:

1) Assuming Ott has the ability to resign them, or that he would agree to do so in Edm
2) That Edm would be trading for a rental
3)That the return is anywhere close to enough
4) That Ott would agree to take on Lucic as a massive dump who is there to begin with, both in terms of value and in terms of financial commitment to Ott of all teams.

Its just all around shinanigans

 

[BK201]

Ottawa needs to get the best assets possible for Stone.. if Edmonton was dumb enough to give us a package around Klefbom that worked for Stone.. its definitely gonna be up there competing with other packages offered.. Making it work with cap is another story all together.

If you really want to make a splash and give Edmonton a top six right now there is another trade:

RNH + Lucic + Yamamoto + 1st 2019 unprotected (wont matter Edmonton makes playoffs here)

for

Stone + Dzingle + Bobby Ryan

No third team needed. Gives Edmonton 3 wingers that can produce at the expense of RNH. Build your Oilers line up looks good IMO and the cap is gonna be close.. this is just a base.

If Lucic wont waive for Ottawa.. let him choose his team and Ottawa will retain on Lucic.. might have to upgrade Yam for Pulj…

IDk its not terrible. I think im just pissed were gonna botch this bad.

 

[34]

So, a cap dump and a few spare parts for Stone. Lol