Confirmed Trade: [STL/NYR] Pavel Buchnevich for 2022 2nd round pick and Sammy Blais
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Because we don't like talented forwards.
We only like forwards that are McKegg level...
the part that’s goofy is it’s this years 2nd
should of insisted on last years mid 1st or at worst this years first protected
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The prob here is Rangers were greedy. They should have listened to me and dealt him earlier.
And I don't give a rat's rump that people consider me opinionated or even conceited for saying so.
He was worth a signif 1st like Oiler's 10OA or earlier a deal that turned out to be Broberg 8OA.
All they had to do was deal him then, at the time, and even tho he was still developing, he was worth more then because he had term and was cheap.
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
They had to squeeze every drop of playing out of him until all that was left was the last ounce of his rfa.
They also waited too long to deal Stepan, and got extremely lucky AZ did a 7OA, which we screwed up by taking the no talent ingrate who is Lias Andersson.
For the record, I obv would have dealt Buch earlier.
I do like Blais and would have considered paying a little above equal value, but obv that is not the 8OA Broberg return we should have had before.
PizzaAndPucks
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Sucks Blais got hurt early in the year. He was looking good for the Rangers too. I hope he recovers and comes back strong next season , from a Devils fan.
Kaapo di tutti capi
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Terrible trade. Drury got taken to the cleaners.
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin - Strome - Lafrenire
Chytil - Goodrow - Gauthier
Hunt - Rooney - Reaves
Is MILES better than
Kreider - Zibanejad - Lafreniere
Panarin - Strome - Goodrow
Hunt - Chytil - Gauthier
McKegg - Rooney - Reaves
+ a 2nd round pick and a guy who has never played close to a full season due to injuries. Nothing against Blais, but all you need to do as a GM is go to NHL.com and look at the number of games played per season to know this was a bad idea.
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin - Strome - Lafrenire
Chytil - Goodrow - Gauthier
Hunt - Rooney - Reaves
Is MILES better than
Kreider - Zibanejad - Lafreniere
Panarin - Strome - Goodrow
Hunt - Chytil - Gauthier
McKegg - Rooney - Reaves
+ a 2nd round pick and a guy who has never played close to a full season due to injuries. Nothing against Blais, but all you need to do as a GM is go to NHL.com and look at the number of games played per season to know this was a bad idea.
EastVillageBlues
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To be fair;
There is no way any one could have known the type of injury on Blais this season. It's not like something chronic that flaired up; or some recurring concussion that can surface with a minor hit.
It was the slew foot that got him, some might say intentional, or some might say just bad luck. Whatever happened, it has nothing to do with his injury history.
there was buzz on the boards here that Oil would do a high 1st for Buch, and at the time that is where those picks slotted. Again, that is Buch at the time, which was less polished, but still productive w/upside and cheap w/term.
yes, but I vaguely recall they had some reasonable expectation EDM would pony up 1st for the right guy. And I believe there was independent speculation Oil were interested in Buch
That’s posters like us trading yes and no’s. That’s not the real world with actual gms doing deals. So that pick was never on the table.
The Crypto Guy
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It was either Kreider or Buch. There is something called a salary cap. Kreider turned out pretty decent this year.
No, it is entirely possible where there was smoke there was fire.
I am not able to give you direct empirical evidence personally known to me.
Few can.
It was reasonably reported among NYR fans here, and if I am not mistaken, there was some buzz in papers that Buch might be going and Rangers wanted a 1st.
If a team w/a 22OA was offering their 1st, that is what it would be.
If Oil did so at the time, than top 10 would be correct.
This has to go down as one of the worst trades in the last 10 years. Thank you Tom Wilson for deranging the Rangers management enough to hurt them long term I guess.
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One Winged Angel
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Yeah, no, that didn't happen with this trade.
Not a great look right now, but the Blues WITH Buchnevich are still fighting for their playoff lives where as the Rangers are 4th overall in league standings.
This didn't hurt the NYR's longterm at all
Lays
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Yep thank you Tom Wilson for making the Rangers a better team than his own?
Rangers aren’t really missing Buchnevich at this point either. Yes it would be nice to have him back but at this point I’m indifferent about the trade seeing we’re pretty far above the Caps and the Blues in the standings
It's good to see we have finally moved on from bitching about Dylan McIlrath going 10th overall.
That would be Igor Shestyerkin's doing. You're not fooling anyone.
Obviously the Rags would have benefited from keeping Buchnevich. Their 5th highest scoring forward is Barclay Goodrow with 25 pts in 66 games. That's awful.
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inthe6ix
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Buch is killing it for my fantasy team
Always figured he was a setup guy, but he's got 23 goals lol
Great job Army
Always figured he was a setup guy, but he's got 23 goals lol
Great job Army
Lays
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We’re top of the league in fancy stats since the ASB. Even better when you look post-TDL. Goalies can’t win 40+ games alone. Rangers are up there in the tier below the Tampa/Panthers/Canes/Avs tier
The Shesty narrative was true for the first half of the year but at this point if you think he’s still carrying you’re not following NYR
Idk why everyone is always late on how NYR is doing. It took everyone months to get on the Fox train and even longer to realize he was actually good defensively. Even Shesty was doubted this season. People still think Panarin is our best forward. People still think Trouba is bad. People still haven’t really even realized Fox’s fall off this season
Now every Rangers fan is saying the same about how Shesty isn’t really even carrying the team anymore yet people still hold that narrative because they heard it 3 months ago. That will go away after we beat the Pens
And sure you can say that Goodrow is 5th in scoring, without even mentioning that two of the four players we added at the TDL, Copp and Vatrano are both PPG with us
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