Steven Stamkos
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Classicnamesup
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No idea why he would want to come here or how he can be afforded. So no, I have serious doubts it's anything more than clicks
ColdToiletSeats
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We don't sign Richard + Quincey (8mill right there) and we also might get rid of Howard..
I think we should everything we can to sign a superstar like Stamkos.
I think ton’s of cap room and a big hole at the #1 center spot, along with Detroit being close to home is why most people think Detroit has a chance. Also a very historic franchise with a new arena and not much media coverage. I would love for it to happen and think there’s a chance, but not getting my hopes up.
Pavels Dog
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I think there are at least a couple more likely destinations for him. Leaning towards him staying in Tampa.
golffuul
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With Drouin starting to pan out, and the way their team looks for having to sign everyone in the next two years....I actually doubt that Stamkos stays.
KJoe88
Forever Lost.
Ladd won't do anything for us. Not a good fit.
And I like him, but we'll be status quo with him. Stammer is a different story.
BinCookin
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10.5 Mil per season???
Still want him?
I do not think he signs anywhere for less except 1 location.... Tampa could get him for less than that... we wont though.
Still want him?
I do not think he signs anywhere for less except 1 location.... Tampa could get him for less than that... we wont though.
1. I do not see him signing for a cap hit over 9.75
2. I do not see him signing in Tampa, Drouin will not get moved, kucherov is an RFA and is gonna get paid at least 6, hedman will get 8 million very soon(within 2 years), johnson and palat are RFAs next season and will combine for at least 11 million and bishop comes up the same time as hedman and has earned a sizeable raise as well
3. Detroit can offer him #1 centre role and being the top dog
4. Detroit is close enough to toronto if that matters at all
5. With no datsyuk, detroit will have the cap space
6. I say our odds are pretty good and among the 2 or 3 "favourites" to land him
2. I do not see him signing in Tampa, Drouin will not get moved, kucherov is an RFA and is gonna get paid at least 6, hedman will get 8 million very soon(within 2 years), johnson and palat are RFAs next season and will combine for at least 11 million and bishop comes up the same time as hedman and has earned a sizeable raise as well
3. Detroit can offer him #1 centre role and being the top dog
4. Detroit is close enough to toronto if that matters at all
5. With no datsyuk, detroit will have the cap space
6. I say our odds are pretty good and among the 2 or 3 "favourites" to land him
ricky0034
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i'd rather overpay for actual talent than spend it giving lifetime contracts to guys like Abdelkader
anyways it's pretty unlikely because 1: a lot of teams will be going after him and 2: the Wings would probably have to move Datsyuk or something
Mister Ed
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Tampa has already offered him an AAV of 8.5M, which he said no to. Plus, TB has too many RFA (Killorn, Paquette, Kucherov, Namestnikov, Brown, Gudlevskis to name the most notable) that they will not be able to afford him.
I really think that he will sign elsewhere. Like someone else said, a gapping hole at the #1C spot, some money in the bank if Pavel/Howard are traded and the reduced media presence could be enticing.
Toronto has 13M in cap space next year, but they have a couple of RFA in Corrado, Marincin and Holland. They should be able to fit him in, but does he want all the attention?
FLA has 26M in cap space, but they have a lot of UFA leaving that they will have to replace. They still could make a run at him.
I really think it's between those 4 teams (FLA, TB, TOR and DET).
I really think that he will sign elsewhere. Like someone else said, a gapping hole at the #1C spot, some money in the bank if Pavel/Howard are traded and the reduced media presence could be enticing.
Toronto has 13M in cap space next year, but they have a couple of RFA in Corrado, Marincin and Holland. They should be able to fit him in, but does he want all the attention?
FLA has 26M in cap space, but they have a lot of UFA leaving that they will have to replace. They still could make a run at him.
I really think it's between those 4 teams (FLA, TB, TOR and DET).
HisNoodliness
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Honestly I'm worried about signing him. He hasn't been the same after that leg injury. He still has an elite shot but the guy does not create offense. Other people have to carry and distribute the puck. Here finishes. He's still obviously a tremendous player and if we sign him I hope I'm wrong...but honestly I wouldn't consider him for a penny over 9.5 and I don't think he's worth the 8.5 Tampa already offered him.
It would certainly be crazy to see if this could breathe new life into the team though.
It would certainly be crazy to see if this could breathe new life into the team though.
InjuredChoker
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this. he's a good hockey player with elite shot and ability to get open without the puck in the offensive zone. no more, no less. he's not a great playmaker or puck carrier and can't create much offense when the puck is on his stick. he's not great on the cycle or winning puck battles. he's medicore at best defensively. he's best years are behind him. any team that signs him will pay (at least) market value (somewhere around 10-11 mil i'd guess) for a guy who has his best years behind him and is not someone you can build around.
that said, i'm not completely opposed to sign him. he's still a very valuable hockey player even with his flaws. it's better to overpay for that instead of medicore talent (ericsson, abby etc.). he could keep wings floating and make the playoffs and win an occasional round for a while. but wings would need to make another series or moves to improve the defense significantly to get back to contender status. stamkos signing *may* even hurt with that, considering how much cap space he will take and prevent wings from getting high picks. if they suddenly start finding good dman at the draft, stamkos will be way past his prime by the time those dman are good.
but if/as wings aren't interested in tanking, i guess they should be going after stamkos. and the trade some of their wingers for a defenseman.
his best years are behind him?
would you trade for tavares or better yet sign him for free?
come on the guy is 26, he may never score 60 goals again but so what, crosby will never get 120pts again, ovechkin wont ever get 65 plus goals again, karlsson will likely never get 80pts again, holtby will likely never get 48 or more wins again, malkin will never break 100pts again the list would endless if we play that game
InjuredChoker
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i think tavares best years could be ahead of him. he has potential to improve. and has shown improvement in his weaknesses, even making some of them to strenghts in the past 5 seasons. stamkos has just gotten worse or stayed the same.
same with karlsson and holtby (as with JT). i think crosby will be quite a bit better than stamkos over the next 5-7 years or so. i might not want to sign ovechkin and malkin for the deals that they could command in the open market.
Classicnamesup
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Difference is Stamkos suffered a terrible injury and his play has never been the same since. For what he's asking, I don't think he will be worth it
InjuredChoker
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13 teams had worse PP than us (on PP goal production rate). including tampa who had 5th worst. that's what happens when you just rely on stamkos' one-timers and other teams learn to shut it down and have no/bad plan B.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Totally agree, I would rather either Toronto or Buffalo over pay for his services
no no no
you said stamkos' best years are behind him, inferring that he will never match his best season
so lets play that game
do you think
karlsson will ever reach 80pts again?
crosby will ever reach 120pts again?
ovechkin will score 65 goals and 112pts again?
malkin will ever reach 113pts again?
holtby will tie or break the NHL single season win record again?
because those are the best seasons from those players
if any or all of them can become better in other areas of the game but yet not reach those numbers again then why cant stamkos?
the argument was stamkos' best years are behind him, that way of thinking would apply to all of those players and yet i wold take all of them in a heartbeat at 9 million and even so much more a season
Mister Ed
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Our top scorer had 50 points and was paid 7.5M. If someone is paid 2M more than that and nets 20 or more points (for 70 or more total points), while scoring 40G - an area where the Wings were 23rd in the league - he's worth it.
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Number1RedWingsFan52
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Sure he's worth it, If he can net us 40 goals and around 75 points which i think he can then he's definitely worth that much.
he is worth it as
-our #1 centre
-face of the franchise
-part of our next core with larkin, mrazek and dekeyser
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