What kind of contract do you guys think Downie should/could get? Currently he's making $2.6 million a year, which of course ends after this season.
Since the 2009 - 2010 season, he's scored 130 points in 229 games. Pretty good for a goon.
The team averages around 73.5 inches average height overall... so about the 10th biggest in the NHL.
Our most recent forward combination was 73.2 inches. Our forwards are above average in the NHL in terms of size (no stats for this year, but average forward height usually around 72.5-72.8)
The median height of our forwards is 74 inches... 8/12 are over 6ft1 (forward average).
Our most recent D combination was 73 inches. That is under average in the NHL (no stats for this year, but the average height is usually around 73.5-73.8)
Our current lines average 73.2 inches in height (including Mason... as all NHL teams averages include goalies, so would skew if not included.)
The median height of the current lineup (including goalies, 20 man team) is 74 inches... over NHL average by almost an inch. 13/20 players are above 73 inches (NHL average)
The average height in the NHL is 73.2 inches.
So while the team is by no means enormous... they are certainly above NHL average, even at the moment with a pretty small lineup compared to what they could put out.
I think he is actually kind of a hard player to judge what he will get... injuries may pull him down a bit, but he has quite a unique skillset.
But seeing as he averages 47 points a year you would think circa 3.3-4 million a year... that is his going rate really if guys that kind of age with that kind of production are looked at who signed recently (Brouwer, Read, Simmonds, Perron are the most similar really, I know they are not all UFAs, but 4mill+ generally aint given out to guys who are not 50 point player, never-mind ones who have been injured a lot, which will prob pull his value to the lower end of the range... 3.5ish)
I personally do not think he will be resigned unless someone is moved or they know the cap is going up by 5mill... as if he was that would certainly put spending on forwards over 40million...
Then next year: (just an educated guess...)
Hartnell (4.75) Giroux (8.275) Voracek (4.25)
Schenn (~2.75-3) Lecavalier (4.5) Simmonds (3.975)
Downie (3.5) Couturier (1.75) Read (3.625)
Rinaldo (0.75) Laughton (0.925) Hall (0.6)
Rosehill (0.675)
That would put spending on forwards at 40.325 million... I imagine it is more likely that they put Raffl, Cousins, Laughton etc at 3LW. 40+ on forwards is unsustainable really, 37.5-38 is fine.
D
Coburn (4.5) UFA (4.5-5.5)
Streit (5.25) Schenn (3.6)
Grossmann (3.5) Gus (~1.5)
#7 (0.75-1)
So overall with Downie resigned they would be at around 59-60 million tied down... with 2 goalies (Mason ofc + backup) and a D man to sign.
If you believe Jacobs and a few others (well a lot of people who are 'in the know') most imagine the cap will be in the 67-71 range next year.
Mason (4mill)
Backup (1-1.5mill)
D man (4.5-5.5mill)
So if the cap goes to 70 Downie could maybe be squeezed under... if 67... no way.
****ing 8.275 million. So undeserving. Should have been a 6 mill player
****ing 8.275 million. So undeserving. Should have been a 6 mill player
****ing 8.275 million. So undeserving. Should have been a 6 mill player
4 players have more points since 2010...4.
You have to move on from the last CBA, there are no more 12 year contracts.
Tbf through the last 207 reg season games he had 217 points, last 44 playoff games 50 points.
So in the previous 251 games before he signed he had 261 points. That is top 5 in the NHL during that span (and 250 games is a long time... about a third of most decent players careers.) so he was always going to get paid 7.5+ really. Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and a Sedin are the only guys better in that span (St. Louis and Sedin 2 are close... so he has been a legitimate top 5 point scoring forward through 250 games, and PKs well on top and runs a PP, and is ok defensively. (his D is much overly maligned recently... just as it was over praised a few years back.)
He has 13 points in his last 16 as well... while playing pretty crappy at times, and I imagine he improves his pace, he is looking like Giroux again now.
274 points in the last 272 games is pretty impressive in todays NHL in anyones book.
What kind of contract do you guys think Downie should/could get? Currently he's making $2.6 million a year, which of course ends after this season.
Since the 2009 - 2010 season, he's scored 130 points in 229 games. Pretty good for a goon.
Wouldn't surprise me if he gets between $4.5 and $5.5 million for a four or five year deal. He's a relatively valuable asset. If the Flyers don't pay it, I could see someone else scooping him up.
Steve Downie. Has the best mustache on the team.
Wouldn't surprise me if he gets between $4.5 and $5.5 million for a four or five year deal. He's a relatively valuable asset. If the Flyers don't pay it, I could see someone else scooping him up.