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For me, I am comfortable with tiers. And not using arbitrary numbers for cutoffs.Well said, but even "all-time great(s)" has a pecking order or levels to that greatness. That's just the way it is.
For example, and this is just an example - I don't want to start picking apart the for-instance conversation starter - but I can recall a discussion like "After Gretzky/Lemieux/Howe/Orr who's the other in the top 5?" I would argue why does there have to be a top 5? If those are your top tier, then it's four. And the guys you're debating about as the possible fifth are actually the next tier of guys, however-many there are.
But further, so much of the pecking order as you call it is subjective. That's what makes the conversations fun, maybe, but I don't think there's a definitive "way it is" in every instance.