Stars line pegged the legion of doom - is this right?

[Rich Nixon]

Lindros carried the same hype as Crosby into the league, with an even bigger target on him based on his reputation after the Quebec holdout. He faced basically the same targeting and scrutiny as Sid did early on in his career, but Lindros was also a human giant who would give it right back, harder--basically, continually making other players hate him more because of the hype and the fact that he’d scored on your goalie and hurt someone on your team.

But that was also an era where you could throw jumping elbows into people’s temples and get away with it. So since you probably weren’t going to beat him in a fight, you’d look for those openings to do that.

Lindros didn’t “skate with his head down” any more than basically any other player. He wouldn’t have been the elite passer and transition player that he was if he somehow was ignorant of hockey fundamentals. He wasn’t “skating with his head down” when he got popped by Stevens in the playoffs. That was just the phrase that people shouted out derogatively when he’d get his brain rearranged, because most fans of most other teams hated him, and it’s more fun to blame him for his own injuries than admit that his head was being targeted almost every night.

It’s no different than “Crosby’s a whiner” because he didn’t like getting his teeth knocked out with an illegal high stick/punch to the face, or whatever else. Some victim-blaming bullshit. Lindros was no angel on the ice at all, but that doesn’t absolve anyone who deliberately concussed him, nor does it make true the stupid myth about his play that people parrot constantly.

 

[Pilky01]

The Legion of Doom only lasted for what? Like 2 seasons?

 

[Charlie Conway]

In my opinion, there's no modern equivalent of the Legion of Doom. Perhaps they're the closest, but I think it is lowering the bar. That line was dominant, and players of their ilk with skill and grit are all but extinct at this point. Power Forwards aren't made the same anymore.

It's hard for me to put together a line of players like that. The Stars line has done well, as has the Colorado top line, but I think both lack the combination of high end offense (which they have) and dominating physicality. The league has trended away from that style of play.

 

[Charlie Conway]

The Legion of Doom only lasted for what? Like 2 seasons?

It was three, but one was a lockout-shortened season, IIRC.

 

[Rich Nixon]

It was three, but one was a lockout-shortened season, IIRC.

Yup, pretty much '94-'97, though Renberg and Lindros were frequently injured so they weren't all together uninterrupted through that stretch.

Fun history: The LoD era ended when the Flyers traded away Renberg or the first time. Tampa Bay had just received the Flyers' next four first round draft picks after the Flyers successfully offersheeted Chris Gratton (...yeah). They traded all four of them back for Renberg and Karly Dykhuis. Two of those picks became Simon Gagne and Justin Williams. I have no idea what Tampa was thinking. A year later, they traded Renberg, along with Daymond Langkow, back to the Flyers in exchange for Gratton and Mike Sillinger. That sequence should make you very dizzy.

 

[DeadGhost]

Why not, and bear with me here, get an original name for the line?

 

[Pilky01]

Renberg, Sundin and Jonas Hoglund were the REAL Legion of Doom.

 

[Tweed]

What exactly did the flyers line achieve?

Doom, obviously.

 

[Trap Jesus]

I associate the Legion of Doom with big power forwards. That only applies to Benn really, and he's undersized as a power forward. Bruins had a line called the 700-pound line with Knuble-Thornton-Murray that was similarly made up of big players, although obviously not near as good as the Legion of Doom.

 

[SML2]

Make no mistake about it, the whole legion of doom line was prime Lindros. Renberg wasn't striking any fear into anyone. Leclair was a pretty run of the mill guy before he was put there. It was Lindros bull in a China shop run that made that line even wirth remembering.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Lindros was a main battle tank whereas current era 'power forwards' are more akin to humvees.

 

[IndustryLeech]

Legion of Minor Concern is more accurate, but just doesn't seem as cool.

 

[Tuna Tatarrrrrr]

Not many, but some...

TSN: Benn looking like a reincarnation of Lindros

LOL, you can really see who was born after the 90's in this thread, it was really ridiculous and laughable to read some posters there.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Do you guys think this is alright? Benn - Seguin - Radulov playing the top line
Not sure why this is a thing, they have yet to achieve anything noteworthy

The legion of doom was the flyers line

the second coming was the Kulemin-Grabovski-McArthur line

My only issue with it is that they aren't the same style as the original. If they were physically imposing themselves on other teams and crushing them on a consistent basis, then fine, but they have one banger on that line. They scare people because they score goals, not because they score goals after running you over or mugging you in a corner.

 

[Rich Nixon]

My only issue with it is that they aren't the same style as the original. If they were physically imposing themselves on other teams and crushing them on a consistent basis, then fine, but they have one banger on that line. They scare people because they score goals, not because they score goals after running you over or mugging you in a corner.

But neither were Lindros, Leclair, and Renberg. They were certainly capable of that, but they also were an obscenely skilled trio that scored goals with effective cycles and deadly rushes. No one was going to mistake Renberg for a "banger" and Leclair was once a speedy forward who transitioned into the ideal big lug netfront guy throughout his career.

It was mostly that they themselves were impossible to mug in an era where that was commonplace, because they were so damn big and fast that even the hulking bulldog defensemen of that era couldn't neutralize them. It was more about what you couldn't do to them than what they did to you.

Here's the highlights of a game in which they combined for 6 goals (4 by Leclair) and 16 total points. No mugging to be found--check out the very last goal, with both Leclair and Lindros streaking into the slot with a defender dragging on each of them. That is what made them such a problem to defend. Bonus, this is also Thomas Vokoun's brief NHL debut:

 

[Kamina]

Something tells me I'm thinking of a different meaning of the word pegged....

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Lindros carried the same hype as Crosby into the league, with an even bigger target on him based on his reputation after the Quebec holdout. He faced basically the same targeting and scrutiny as Sid did early on in his career, but Lindros was also a human giant who would give it right back, harder--basically, continually making other players hate him more because of the hype and the fact that he’d scored on your goalie and hurt someone on your team.

But that was also an era where you could throw jumping elbows into people’s temples and get away with it. So since you probably weren’t going to beat him in a fight, you’d look for those openings to do that.

Lindros didn’t “skate with his head down” any more than basically any other player. He wouldn’t have been the elite passer and transition player that he was if he somehow was ignorant of hockey fundamentals. He wasn’t “skating with his head down” when he got popped by Stevens in the playoffs. That was just the phrase that people shouted out derogatively when he’d get his brain rearranged, because most fans of most other teams hated him, and it’s more fun to blame him for his own injuries than admit that his head was being targeted almost every night.

It’s no different than “Crosby’s a whiner” because he didn’t like getting his teeth knocked out with an illegal high stick/punch to the face, or whatever else. Some victim-blaming bull****. Lindros was no angel on the ice at all, but that doesn’t absolve anyone who deliberately concussed him, nor does it make true the stupid myth about his play that people parrot constantly.

He certainly wasn't looking when this happened.

 

[Rich Nixon]

He certainly wasn't looking when this happened.

Oh jesus f***ing christ, he's coming through the neutral zone controlling the puck at a high speed, head up all the way, mostly worrying about the two opponents to his left. His head angles down less than a half second before impact, it's not like that's the reason he didn't see Stevens, he gets hit from basically a 90 degree angle. Complete and total blindside. It's not like changing where his eyes were at prevents a concussion there.

It's a dumbass myth. It really is. Acting like his head positioning is somehow going to change the outcome of that play is ridiculous. It was a taunt at the time and it's slowly morphed into reality for a lot of fans since.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Oh jesus ****ing christ, he's coming through the neutral zone controlling the puck at a high speed, head up all the way, mostly worrying about the two opponents to his left. His head angles down less than a half second before impact, it's not like that's the reason he didn't see Stevens, he gets hit from basically a 90 degree angle. Complete and total blindside. It's not like changing where his eyes were at prevents a concussion there.

It's a dumbass myth. It really is. Acting like his head positioning is somehow going to change the outcome of that play is ridiculous. It was a taunt at the time and it's slowly morphed into reality for a lot of fans since.

Lindros got himself into trouble more than once because he lacked situational awareness. Call it whatever you want, he had his bell rung multiple times and it was his own fault.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Lindros got himself into trouble more than once because he lacked situational awareness. Call it whatever you want, he had his bell rung multiple times and it was his own fault.

Sure. Now, the Kasparitis hit he's absolutely head down all the way, but that one? Nah. And acting like he did it more than anyone else is silly. Again, that's the myth. He made his messes, had his hype and reputation, and was targeted for it.

 

[Conbon]

the second coming was the Kulemin-Grabovski-McArthur line

Legion of Poo more like

 

[Doublechin]

Copyright protection usually last 20 years by default, we above 20 now, who cares.

 

[Pantokrator]

In my opinion, there's no modern equivalent of the Legion of Doom. Perhaps they're the closest, but I think it is lowering the bar. That line was dominant, and players of their ilk with skill and grit are all but extinct at this point. Power Forwards aren't made the same anymore.

It's hard for me to put together a line of players like that. The Stars line has done well, as has the Colorado top line, but I think both lack the combination of high end offense (which they have) and dominating physicality. The league has trended away from that style of play.

Yeah, I imagine Montgomery referred to how they can dominate a game, not how they play style-wise.

 

[cgf]

They do have Radu, and he's >>>>> your favorite player

 

[Howie Hodge]

The "Legion Of Doom?"

They need to come up with something more original, like "The Production Line" or "The GAG Line......"

Weak.