OT: Star Trek vs Star Wars

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[SUX2BU]

I voted Star Trek because Spock would find my other choice illogical......

 

[Daximus]

Star Trek AINEC. It was smarter, funnier, sexier, and took on serious societal issues and social conventions. Granted, not always successfully but what show is perfect? Well, besides The Good Place.

Star Trek pioneered IMO the worst trope of sci-fi. That every single member of a single species on another planet is the exact same. They all have the same goals, views and abilities. Just never caught me like star wars did.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Star Trek pioneered IMO the worst trope of sci-fi. That every single member of a single species on another planet is the exact same. They all have the same goals, views and abilities. Just never caught me like star wars did.

 

[Jet]

I enjoyed the first 3 Star Wars movies, but they lost me after that.

Star Trek has it's great stuff and it's turds, but the movie reboot and Star Trek: Discovery are sublime.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Star Trek pioneered IMO the worst trope of sci-fi. That every single member of a single species on another planet is the exact same. They all have the same goals, views and abilities. Just never caught me like star wars did.

Actually, the worst "trope", if you will, is that all humanoid life forms on other planets/galaxies speak perfect English. Not French, Spanish or Polish, but English. Give or take the occasional Klingon, that is.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Star Trek pioneered IMO the worst trope of sci-fi. That every single member of a single species on another planet is the exact same. They all have the same goals, views and abilities. Just never caught me like star wars did.

You'll have to expand on what you mean because as I'm currently interpreting it, that all aliens portrayed on ST are exactly like humans, is just patently false. The episode with the Horta illustrated very well the problems inherent in making contact with a species far, far different from us. Although, Gary Larson did it better.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Which do you prefer? I mean both are good, but which is your favorite one and why?

Trying something new, see how people respond. Just trying to lighten the mood a bit, add a bit more fun to our forum. Listed as a OT thread, so don't complain.

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[nobody imp0rtant]

I enjoyed the first 3 Star Wars movies, but they lost me after that.

Star Trek has it's great stuff and it's turds, but the movie reboot and Star Trek: Discovery are sublime.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that likes Discovery. It has taken the ST franchise to a much darker place and I'm good with that.

 

[folix]

I voted Star Wars, Star Trek nothing seems to work no matter how brand new it maybe. The whole ship is a piece of shit. EVERY TIME someone attacks the shields dont work, the engines wont run and the guns magically wont fire. Im think the whole thing was built in China out of dollar store plastic.

In the end Warhammer 40k is way way better! Everything works and still dont matter your most likely going to die.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Actually, the worst "trope", if you will, is that all humanoid life forms on other planets/galaxies speak perfect English. Not French, Spanish or Polish, but English. Give or take the occasional Klingon, that is.

It's sort of a necessary part of movie making. Incorporating language translation would be a cumbersome intrusion on the story telling. It's OK to suspend disbelief when watching SF.

And if the Germans for example made a movie about alien contact, I expect the aliens would speak German not English.

 

[Yukon Joe]

It's like trying to pick which of your children is your favourite. If you put a gun to my head though, it's always been Star Trek.

It's tough though as Star Wars is primarily a movie franchise, that has had a couple of TV spin offs, whereas Star Trek is primarily a TV show that has had a couple of movie spin offs. So there's just so much MORE of Star Trek than there is Star Wars.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I voted Star Wars, Star Trek nothing seems to work no matter how brand new it maybe. The whole ship is a piece of ****. EVERY TIME someone attacks the shields dont work, the engines wont run and the guns magically wont fire. Im think the whole thing was built in China out of dollar store plastic.

In the end Warhammer 40k is way way better! Everything works and still dont matter your most likely going to die.

Not to mention those damn sensors are constantly in need of re-calibrating.

 

[Fishy]

Mmmmmmm.....STAR TREK!

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Also loved Lost in Space but then again there's probably not that many scifi series that I didn't like so maybe it's not saying much.

I'm loathe to admit that I even liked The Starlost when it was on. I was not a critical thinker at that age.

 

[raideralex99]

Connor = Star Trek
Laine = Star Wars

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Connor = Star Trek
Laine = Star Wars

Maurice = Plan 9 from Outer Space

 

[DannyGallivan]

It's sort of a necessary part of movie making. Incorporating language translation would be a cumbersome intrusion on the story telling. It's OK to suspend disbelief when watching SF.

And if the Germans for example made a movie about alien contact, I expect the aliens would speak German not English.

... or English with thick German accents (never mind, that's for American war movies).

 

[DannyGallivan]

Maurice = Plan 9 from Outer Space

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

... or English with thick German accents (never mind, that's for American war movies).

Speaking of SF movies with thick German accents, if you haven't yet seen Iron Sky, it's worth watching just for how dreadfully bad it is.

 

[Daximus]

You'll have to expand on what you mean because as I'm currently interpreting it, that all aliens portrayed on ST are exactly like humans, is just patently false. The episode with the Horta illustrated very well the problems inherent in making contact with a species far, far different from us. Although, Gary Larson did it better.

More like each individual of species is the exact same as each other individual of a species. D&D also reinforces this trope in early additions for fantasy.

 

[tbcwpg]

Guys, please try to keep all political opinions out of the thread. Talking about why you think the Star Wars writing has gone downhill is fine, but you can do it without blaming the political beliefs of others.

 

[Neuf]

More like each individual of species is the exact same as each other individual of a species. D&D also reinforces this trope in early additions for fantasy.

Yeah I get what you're saying.

Gotta also wonder why all planets have one biome, government, economy, etc.

 

[Jet]

Actually, the worst "trope", if you will, is that all humanoid life forms on other planets/galaxies speak perfect English. Not French, Spanish or Polish, but English. Give or take the occasional Klingon, that is.

Discovery mainly has Klingons speaking native tongue. Really great writing and as stated, darker than the usual Star Trek. Even good characters struggle with moral issues and make unexpected choices

 

[Ducky10]

Star Wars, Jar Jar Binks be damned.