Speculation: Staios no longer with Oilers, rumoured to join Sens org

[sennysensen]

Steve Staios Leaves Oilers Amidst Front Office Changes

It appears Steve Staios has departed the Edmonton Oilers management team and is headed toward a job with the Ottawa Senators.

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Is Steve Staios joining Senators? NHL insider addresses rumors behind Oilers executive's departure

Amidst changes within the Edmonton Oilers' management, the unexpected departure of Steve Staios from the team's front office has raised eyebrows.

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[BondraTime]

Doesn’t seem like it’s anything more than a podcaster chasing why he’s not on the teams website, when he wasn’t even on the website last year.

It’s very likely that he’s going to be in Ottawa shortly. A few different responses from anonymous sources isn’t much confirmation of anything though.

 

[Sun God Nika]

maybe add a speculation header?

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

COuld definitely see Andlaur bringing in some of his people to fill out the front office. Get them into the organization now and have them ready to go if he wants to make changes.

Makes sense. Not sure if this story is legit though.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

maybe add a speculation header?

Done

 

[Stylizer1]

What constitutes speculation?

Seems like the easiest way to get a thread deleted, no?

I speculate a lot of things.

 

[NyQuil]

This was the most obvious rumour around.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

This was the most obvious rumour around.

Deep inside the inner minds of HFSens insiders, there are many rumours to be made.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Isn't the guy like 50? Can't see how he'd fit in before Branny or Hammy. Odd move from Dorian if real

 

[Larionov]

Isn't the guy like 50? Can't see how he'd fit in before Branny or Hammy. Odd move from Dorian if real

His mobility isn't what it once was, but he adds some toughness and character to our bottom pairing. ;-)

Call me crazy, but I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that he gets named GM and Dorion gets an apple and a roadmap. Andlauer has no past relationship with Dorion, and that department is stripped down to the studs now anyway. It would save an awkward season of Dorion and Staios trying to co-exist while waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

His mobility isn't what it once was, but he adds some toughness and character to our bottom pairing. ;-)

Call me crazy, but I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that he gets named GM and Dorion gets an apple and a roadmap. Andlauer has no past relationship with Dorion, and that department is stripped down to the studs now anyway. It would save an awkward season of Dorion and Staios trying to co-exist while waiting for the other shoe to drop.

you’re crazy…….doubt very much that the first thing the new owner is going to do, once he is handed the keys to the franchise, is to kick the GM to the curb, without cause. ….. It’s not his style, and would not make a good, first impression

He may very well bring in “his guy” Staois, in some capacity… and he will be the the GM in waiting, if he isn’t named POHO.

Yes the clock is running on both DJS and PD, and doubt very much if either is offered a contract extension anytime soon.

 

[Tuna99]

you’re crazy…….doubt very much that the first thing the new owner is going to do, once he is handed the keys to the franchise, is to kick the GM to the curb, without cause. ….. It’s not his style, and would not make a good, first impression

He may very well bring in “his guy” Staois, in some capacity… and he will be the the GM in waiting, if he isn’t named POHO.

Yes the clock is running on both DJS and PD, and doubt very much if either is offered a contract extension anytime soon.

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Not sure if you know how the world works but when you pay $1 billion for something you can hire and fire whoever you want. We aren’t talking about a Barista here, we’re talking about the person in charge of your billion dollar enterprise and achieving your burning passion of winning a Stanley Cup (not to mention the increase in value your franchise would have overnight if you win a Cup +$100 million) Why wouldn’t you immediately bring in the person you think could do that for you that you have total trust and confidence in?

 

[JD1]

Not sure if you know how the world works but when you pay $1 billion for something you can hire and fire whoever you want. We aren’t talking about a Barista here, we’re talking about the person in charge of your billion dollar enterprise and achieving your burning passion of winning a Stanley Cup (not to mention the increase in value your franchise would have overnight if you win a Cup +$100 million) Why wouldn’t you immediately bring in the person you think could do that for you that you have total trust and confidence in?

Not sure you understand how the NHL/world works. It's actually easier to fire a GM than a barista. With a barista you'd have to show cause, with a GM you just pay out their contract.

Too extremes obviously. But coaches and GMs have services type contracts with specific time attached to the contract which means firing them is quite different than a permanent employee

That aside, Andlauer has been in the NHL for a long time. He's got tons of connections across the league, not just Staois. Why would you take your shiny new billion dollar toy and hand the reigns to someone without experience? That's an equally valid question isn't it? What experience does Staois have running an NHL franchise as a GM or POHO? None as far as I can tell.

I'm not saying it's not going to happen or that he isn't brought in in some role, but his resume is thin and Andlauer is a guy that would know lots of people across the league.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Not sure if you know how the world works but when you pay $1 billion for something you can hire and fire whoever you want. We aren’t talking about a Barista here, we’re talking about the person in charge of your billion dollar enterprise and achieving your burning passion of winning a Stanley Cup (not to mention the increase in value your franchise would have overnight if you win a Cup +$100 million) Why wouldn’t you immediately bring in the person you think could do that for you that you have total trust and confidence in?

Again, I will correct you, Andlauer did not lay out 1 Billion dollars for the franchise, he will own at least 51% as the Majority owner, with the rest divided up between the minority owners.

Nothing in his past indicates he will be the type of owner that on day one, as the poster suggested, will start firing and replacing personal. Also, he will be the type of majority owner that will consult the minority owners, to have them all on the same page, whenever a big managerial move is made.

I am of the belief he already knows what management structure and personal he would like to have in place, at the appropriate time…. And will get to know the current management personal before making any drastic moves, as was suggested by the poster I responded to.

 

[Agent Zub]

1 day 1 month who cares Dorion gone and that should make us all happy.

 

[TonySoprano11]

Nothing in his past indicates he will be the type of owner that on day one, as the poster suggested, will start firing and replacing personal.

Well that would be severely disappointing if you are right. I want to see an Ari Gold style bloodbath in the offices of the Ottawa Senators.

 

[Tuna99]

Again, I will correct you, Andlauer did not lay out 1 Billion dollars for the franchise, he will own at least 51% as the Majority owner, with the rest divided up between the minority owners.

Nothing in his past indicates he will be the type of owner that on day one, as the poster suggested, will start firing and replacing personal. Also, he will be the type of majority owner that will consult the minority owners, to have them all on the same page, whenever a big managerial move is made.

I am of the belief he already knows what management structure and personal he would like to have in place, at the appropriate time…. And will get to know the current management personal before making any drastic moves, as was suggested by the poster I responded to.

Your point was Pierre Dorion doesn’t deserved to be fired because “he’s done nothing wrong” but show me what he’s done right because that’s what keep you working

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Well that would be severely disappointing if you are right. I want to see an Ari Gold style bloodbath in the offices of the Ottawa Senators.

I miss that show!

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Your point was Pierre Dorion doesn’t deserved to be fired because “he’s done nothing wrong” but show me what he’s done right because that’s what keep you working

There you go again putting words in my mouth, that I never posted….
Show anything in my post that remotely resembles the claims you’ve made….

Just because someone does not blindly share your negative and hate filled opinion on PD, then they must me a 100% complete supporter of PD.

PD has made his fair share of good decisions, bad decisions and gambles… some worked out better that others… he is not the Best GM in the NHL, nor Is he the absolute worst… be is somewhere in the mushy middle.

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My point was, the point you completely missed or did not comprehend, was that Andlauer has not shown to make impulsive snap decisions in the past, and doubt he is going to once he takes control of the Senators as majority owner.

 

[Cosmix]

Not sure if you know how the world works but when you pay $1 billion for something you can hire and fire whoever you want. We aren’t talking about a Barista here, we’re talking about the person in charge of your billion dollar enterprise and achieving your burning passion of winning a Stanley Cup (not to mention the increase in value your franchise would have overnight if you win a Cup +$100 million) Why wouldn’t you immediately bring in the person you think could do that for you that you have total trust and confidence in?

Yes, agreed, But the "guy" is NOT Staios.

 

[IpsoPostFacto]

Not sure you understand how the NHL/world works. It's actually easier to fire a GM than a barista. With a barista you'd have to show cause, with a GM you just pay out their contract.

Too extremes obviously. But coaches and GMs have services type contracts with specific time attached to the contract which means firing them is quite different than a permanent employee

That aside, Andlauer has been in the NHL for a long time. He's got tons of connections across the league, not just Staois. Why would you take your shiny new billion dollar toy and hand the reigns to someone without experience? That's an equally valid question isn't it? What experience does Staois have running an NHL franchise as a GM or POHO? None as far as I can tell.

I'm not saying it's not going to happen or that he isn't brought in in some role, but his resume is thin and Andlauer is a guy that would know lots of people across the league.

lol. no you don't. Not here anyways. Want to replace a barista with your best friend, kid, or spouse? You don't need a reason; just fire them. Your only requirement are notice period, possible severance - which would not be a huge issue, and not being obvious that you are firing someone in a protected class because of their membership in that protected class. so, basically "we are moving in a different direction. Here's a great letter of reference.

On the other hand, with a GM you have to pay out their contract and there is always the issue of all the keyboard warriors that may give you headaches if you are letting go of a GM who is beloved by the fans.

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

If Andlauer does something on day 1, it will not be “impulsive”. Shit is taking forever, but I guarantee there is a plan, and it will continue to evolve until he gets the reigns.

We are just guessing at what the plan is. It could very well involve some runway for the current hockey staff, but I’d wager money if it does, the expectations will be clear.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

If Andlauer does something on day 1, it will not be “impulsive”. Shit is taking forever, but I guarantee there is a plan, and it will continue to evolve until he gets the reigns.

We are just guessing at what the plan is. It could very well involve some runway for the current hockey staff, but I’d wager money if it does, the expectations will be clear.

I guess it all depends on where he falls, in between the two perceptions of the franchise…the positive team on the rise, with it’s core players locked down to long term contracts….. vs the negative trading away of high end talent and prospects during the rebuild and non contending for the playoffs.

No one but the soon to be majority owner and his partners know what he or they all currently think of the franchise’s recent past and outlook for the future….. so whenever they all take over the franchise and do some due diligence to either confirm or deny their current perceptions, only then will Andlauer and his minority owners decide what needs to be done, a minor tune up, a complete overhaul or something in between.

The least likely long term route will be the status quo. How long it takes, and for whatever reason will be given, managerial moves will be made.

 

[HSF]

Firing the GM now when most of his job is done might not be the best time as there aren't many good candidate out there.

Maybe Staois comes in as a green GM And they hire a vet as the POHO to guide the way. Seems like what a lot of teams do no a days

 

[bert]

you’re crazy…….doubt very much that the first thing the new owner is going to do, once he is handed the keys to the franchise, is to kick the GM to the curb, without cause. ….. It’s not his style, and would not make a good, first impression

He may very well bring in “his guy” Staois, in some capacity… and he will be the the GM in waiting, if he isn’t named POHO.

Yes the clock is running on both DJS and PD, and doubt very much if either is offered a contract extension anytime soon.

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Uhhhh haha. Ill be book marking this post.