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[The 29th Pick]

Also consider that Wood has been on the 4th line for most of this season. His points per minute probably isn't as low as his points per game.

And not to mention, Wood is only in his third season and we still don't know what he is yet, but Johansson was a 45 point player career before he got here.

Wood was my favorite player last season...I mean besides Hall, because he just started doing things and getting better, I'm just disappointed in him so far, as well as Hall and even Nico. MarJo is just on the wrong team here..send him to a "finesse" team like the Oilers

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

Because the quality chances certainly weren't lopsided. If anything it felt to me like we gave up more quality chances. We had a lot of crest-killers but it seemed like everything we gave up was a two-on-one or slot chance. Plus shots on goal don't count the two or three post shots Detroit had either. I'm not sure we got more than three quality chances the whole game - the two goals and the other Bratt/Zacha chance they nearly missed. Oh and Hall's one-time floater late in the game. So four.

The quality wasn’t there, that’s for damn sure. I felt like kinkaid had to make too many big saves as well. This game could’ve easily gotten away from them.

I mean whatever, it was a better outing compared to other recent losses but pretty disappointing to not close it out after being up by 2.

 

[Nubmer6]

Do we even have a plan for OT? I mean... it seems like we randomly throw players out there. I feel like we should have 3 or 4 set pairs of forwards, but we just keep throwing out mishmashes of players.

 

[Billdo]

all the MarJo and Zacha bashing, how about Miles Wood....1 lame goal and its almost Thanksgiving

Exactly. For all the shit Zacha has taken, they now have the same amount of goals and Zacha has at least been EXCELLENT on the other side of the puck. What has Miles done? He's flaccid.

 

[Nubmer6]

 

[Billdo]

Do we even have a plan for OT? I mean... it seems like we randomly throw players out there. I feel like we should have 3 or 4 set pairs of forwards, but we just keep throwing out mishmashes of players.

I feel like when Nico and Vatanen are back it should be Hall-Nico-Vatanen, Zajac-Palmieri-Severson, Bratt-Zacha-Greene. If anyone gets caught out there for a long time sprinkle in Coleman or Wood. Dea, Seney, etc shouldn't be out there if it's possible.

 

[Nubmer6]

Exactly. For all the **** Zacha has taken, they now have the same amount of goals and Zacha has at least been EXCELLENT on the other side of the puck. What has Miles done? He's flaccid.

Funny, I thought Wood had a good game today despite not getting on the score sheet. He was involved, forechecking, hitting and shooting.

 

[Blender]

No excuse. Defensive lapses and careless plays with the puck cost us the game.

 

[Nubmer6]

I feel like when Nico and Vatanen are back it should be Hall-Nico-Vatanen, Zajac-Palmieri-Severson, Bratt-Zacha-Greene. If anyone gets caught out there for a long time sprinkle in Coleman or Wood. Dea, Seney, etc shouldn't be out there if it's possible.

Nice groupings, but whatever they are, I feel like they should be consistent, not made up on the fly. It's like we're experimenting in OT.

 

[Billdo]

Funny, I thought Wood had a good game today despite not getting on the score sheet. He was involved, forechecking, hitting and shooting.

I don't disagree with today but the guy rarely gets blasted when he's often times just as invisible as Zacha. I'll admit, I'm a Zacha stan so I'm biased.

 

[My3Sons]

Just watched on DVR. First thing, stat guy was on drugs. I did not see that huge disparity in shots. At one point it was 36 -22. How? The game certainly didn’t seem that way

Second, refs are giving it hard to NJ the last couple games. Not a single pp? On home ice no less? **** off. You’ll never see a more blatant too many men on the ice penalty but of course, no call

I liked their game better in philly. They seemed somewhat flat today. Not a bad game, but I don’t think Bernier had too tough an outing today. I don’t know, that extra gear just didn’t seem to be there.

The PP issue is on Shero to send a complaint to the league if he thinks the calls or lack thereof were too one sided. I noticed early that the refs were letting them play. That will typically favor the lesser team who can hold and grab more to compensate for slower skating. The refs didn’t help but this loss wasn’t solely their fault. From individual poor performances to poor coaching and missing the 1C and the RD1 there are numerous reasons the team failed at the end. At least they got a point and didn’t completely fall apart like in the road games. PZ scoring is hopefully the start of something and maybe Hynes puts Nico between PZ and Bratt when he returns and maybe NJ will have two lines that can create offense as long as Zajac can maintain his level of play.

 

[The 29th Pick]

No excuse. Defensive lapses and careless plays with the puck cost us the game.

Hall has been a mess this season, I think he's trying to improve on last years numbers and he's his own worst enemy

 

[My3Sons]

Exactly. For all the **** Zacha has taken, they now have the same amount of goals and Zacha has at least been EXCELLENT on the other side of the puck. What has Miles done? He's flaccid.

Rinshot

 

[NJDevs26]

The PP issue is on Shero to send a complaint to the league if he thinks the calls or lack thereof were too one sided. I noticed early that the refs were letting them play. That will typically favor the lesser team who can hold and grab more to compensate for slower skating. The refs didn’t help but this loss wasn’t solely their fault. From individual poor performances to poor coaching and missing the 1C and the RD1 there are numerous reasons the team failed at the end. At least they got a point and didn’t completely fall apart like in the road games. PZ scoring is hopefully the start of something and maybe Hynes puts Nico between PZ and Bratt when he returns and maybe NJ will have two lines that can create offense as long as Zajac can maintain his level of play.

Yeah one thing you can say is they were 'at least' lenient both ways in this case...which helps the team willing to get away with more or needing to get away with more. It just looks bad when you miss obvious calls because you abdicate your responsibility to actually ref the game.

 

[My3Sons]

Yeah one thing you can say is they were 'at least' lenient both ways in this case...which helps the team willing to get away with more or needing to get away with more. It just looks bad when you miss obvious calls because you abdicate your responsibility to actually ref the game.

Agreed. But hard to know if that is on that crew or a league directive to “let them play” more

 

[njdevils1982]

missed game ……checked in after 2 ……holy f*** zacha goal?!


and then just saw the end score now………what the f***!

 

[BenedictGomez]

It's almost as if Corsi is grossy overrated.

It's almost as if sometimes the team with the best Corsi in the NHL misses the playoffs and some of the worst Corsi teams make the playoffs. Oh........ wait......

 

[NJDevs26]

Agreed. But hard to know if that is on that crew or a league directive to “let them play” more

Probably crew cause we certainly don't see that every game.

It's almost as if Corsi is grossy overrated.

It's almost as if sometimes the team with the best Corsi in the NHL misses the playoffs and some of the worst Corsi teams make the playoffs. Oh........ wait......

Well that isn't what you would use to make an anti-Corsi case cause Hall WAS bad today. In this case the numbers matched the eye test. Plus generally the Corsi teams DO line up with playoff teams, with one or two exceptions - usually we're one of the exceptions though

I think it's a little more of an accurate barometer when it comes to team performance over an 82-game season rather than individual performance.

 

[njdevils1982]

Lol, even the Leafs players were apologizing for Kinkaid for scoring softie on him.

oh c'mon……the goal youre talking about was so out of the norm and it happened to float in during a blowout……

….nothing wrong with the "apology"

 

[BenedictGomez]

Today's game is Exhibit A of why I have previously said I want NO PART of Damon Severson is Overtime.



It is virtually incomprehensible that an NHL "defenseman" could play this so terribly.

Kids in High School hockey & lower (Yes, REALLY) know how to play this sequence. It's defense 101 for god's sake.

A victory lap prediction I wish I didnt have to make.

 

[njdevils1982]

great pass from bratt to zacha…head up all the way


nice

 

[NJDevs26]

Today's game is Exhibit A of why I have previously said I want NO PART of Damon Severson is Overtime.



It is virtually incomprehensible that an NHL "defenseman" could play this so terribly. Kids in High School hockey and lower (Yes, REALLY) know to hot play this sequence. It's defense 101 for god's sake.

A victory lap prediction I wish I didnt have to make.

Check out Lovejoy's 2-on-1 from the third period, that wasn't pretty either. He just completely peeled off the shooter leaving him wide open. There were at least one or two other two-on-ones where the defenseman played it similarly to Severson, not protecting against the pass. That's not a Severson problem, that's a coaching problem when literally every defenseman on the roster is playing the same situation incorrectly either by staying in no-man's land or letting the shooter go to the net wide open.

 

[Azathoth]

Maybe they felt sorry for the wings travel issues and tried to overcompensate with the lopsided calls? I certainly hope not.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Horrible loss. Pathetic

I blame Hall for the loss

His hockey sense has been dreadful this season.

We are up 2-0 late in the 2nd, playing great, Hall gets the puck just inside the blue line, instead of making the smart play of skating or moving the pick forward, he try to spin around backwards and coughs the puck up

Det goes right down the ice and scores.

Instead if 2 or 3 nothing going into the 3rd it's 2-1

That was the turning point and they lost a game that should have easily been 2 points when up 2 St that point of the game.

Team has horrible hockey sense overall.

Aside from Coleman and maybe a few others, we are a dumb team.

Not a playoff team.

 

[Blender]

Today's game is Exhibit A of why I have previously said I want NO PART of Damon Severson is Overtime.



It is virtually incomprehensible that an NHL "defenseman" could play this so terribly.

Kids in High School hockey & lower (Yes, REALLY) know how to play this sequence. It's defense 101 for god's sake.

A victory lap prediction I wish I didnt have to make.

Agreed, and also why is Hall lined up along the boards instead of in the middle? That set up was begging for a 2on1 against.