Sportsnet: Sportsnet 650 ' Canucks listening to offers on Virtanen'

[DownGoesMcDavid]

That isn’t what was reported at all. What Friedman said was Edmonton was interested in buying low on Virtanen at one point in the context of ‘selling low on Puljujarvi now would be a bad idea’. I guarantee Jones was never offered.

Nice? Regardless. Jones doesnt beat anyone out in our top 4. So were not moving a valuable asset for him.


Out of all the offers in this thread he probably moves the needle the least.

I like the other offers waay better, Zadorov Pionk Hagg even Honka.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Danton and grez for Jake virtanen and 2nd round pick . Book it.

Van not moving picks

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Bear + 2nd

No but better than Caleb Jones offer.

Dont think we make good trading partners.
Oilers defence and dmen prospects are weak.

 

[Liferleafer]

I think trading Zadorov would be a terrible idea, but I'm not convinced his value is at all higher than someone like Virtanen. Both young players, upside is there, both have clear downsides. If for whatever reason each team wants to move on then this the sort of change-of-scenery swap I could see realistically happening.

Honest question...what's it cost for the Leafs?

 

[Tripod]

Philly would probably make for good trading partners w. Vancouver.

Hagg would be the guy of equal value.

Others have way higher value/upside....others not enough. And this is assuming they want someone who can play now not D prospects like Hogberg, Zamula, Ginning, etc...

 

[The don godfather]

I bet canucks will get a flood of good offers for Jake no question about that. Benning will take his time.

 

[Rafters]

Matt Benning, 4th for Virtanen, come on uncle Jim ... bring Matt home

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Nice? Regardless. Jones doesnt beat anyone out in our top 4. So were not moving a valuable asset for him.


Out of all the offers in this thread he probably moves the needle the least.

I like the other offers waay better, Zadorov Pionk Hagg even Honka.

Liking Honka more than Jones at this stage in their development is extremely questionable. Agreed Zadorov and Pionk are good offers. Don’t know a ton about Hagg but Flyers fans were not high on him as recently as last year.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Liking Honka more than Jones at this stage in their development is extremely questionable. Agreed Zadorov and Pionk are good offers. Don’t know a ton about Hagg but Flyers fans were not high on him as recently as last year.

As an Oiler fan what would you say is the very least you would give up for Puljujarvi??

Virtanen is just as high of a draft pick and has proven himself waay more than Puljujarvi and plays a style that a lot of playoff teams look for.

So whatever it is you would accept for Puljujarvi then multiply by 2 as to what Vancouver would want for Virtanen.

If youd do Puljujarvi for Caleb Jones then i have a nickel to sell you for a dollar.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Really can’t see this actually happening. Jake’s upside and potential is far superior to what’s being offered. At the same time I don’t think he’s worth the world as he has yet to prove a consistent top 9 nhl player. But where the Canucks are at I’d rather be patient and hang on to him (especially with these offers). Not to mention we won’t be adding a pick on either!

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Matt Benning, 4th for Virtanen, come on uncle Jim ... bring Matt home

Whats with Oiler fans loving Virtanen but not willing to ante up.

Already mentioned...were not good trading partners. Oilers dont have good Dmen or intriguing dmen prospects.

 

[780il]

No but better than Caleb Jones offer.

Dont think we make good trading partners.
Oilers defence and dmen prospects are weak.

We wouldn't trade Jones for Virtanen anyway so that's moot

 

[Ovechclutch]

I wouldn’t even trade Goldobin for this guy. Huge pass!
You want Granlund for him? Depth player who can play centre or wing

Fair enough, Granlund seems like a good add to the 4th line and penalty kill, what would you want for Virtanen?

 

[DFC]

...Does this not sound exactly like the kind of guy Vancouver could use going forward? I don't get the point of this.

 

[Ovechclutch]

No thank.

Also if Virtanen pans out.. it would be unfair to have him and Tom Wilson on same team

That's the plan

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I like the idea of Zadorov being the return for Virtanen

 

[Bettman Returnz]

...Does this not sound exactly like the kind of guy Vancouver could use going forward? I don't get the point of this.

100 % ... why trade the exact player we/ Canucks need. We need D too but not at the expense of this.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

...Does this not sound exactly like the kind of guy Vancouver could use going forward? I don't get the point of this.

If you read the OP...Van isnt shopping him just listening to offers.

And yes they can 100% use a player that plays the way JV plays especially when they make the playoffs but theres a bigger holes on defence that they are looking to fill and if JV can fetch that then id assume they would pull the trigger.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I highly doubt anything comes of this... sounds more like stirring up trade deadline rumours. Can’t hurt to listen but really don’t see a deal that makes sense for Canucks unless other team is over paying.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Honka from Dallas?

Sure just change virtanen to that other young Canadian kid we’ve got in gudbranson

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

I highly doubt anything comes of this... sounds more like stirring up trade deadline rumours. Can’t hurt to listen but really don’t see a deal that makes sense for Canucks unless other team is over paying.

I think with the rise of Tom Wilson and the huge asking price for Ferland and Wayne Simmonds, teams are looking into Virtanen.

These type of players are very very valuable in a 7 game series

 

[CapnZin]

Philly would probably make for good trading partners w. Vancouver.

That’s what I was thinking. Hagg doesn’t fit an Eastern style game.

Idk if it is still East Skill and West Physicality anymore, but I think Hagg would be better situated on a Western team rather than an Eastern one.

One of the harder and heavier hitters in the league and is one of the first ones to start mixing it up after the play is over, but still hasn’t gotten into his first NHL fight yet.

I’d do Hagg + pick for Virtanen. Virtanen would fill in the Simmonds spot once he’s traded. Morin would then fill in for Hagg once he returns.

 

[Westsyde]

I guess it depends on how desperate van is for defence, CAR could maybe do jake bean small plus or adam fox and bigger plus? I feel due to the struggle of Nylander and his large contract that his price would be pretty close to that?

 

[Luck 6]

There’s is no chance Virtanen is traded for spare parts. We drafted him early, have developed him, and he is now finally to look like a player. If you have a young top 4 defenseman that stings to loose, fine, but spare parts are not welcome.

Some of these offers have been decent though... I just don’t see him being moved.

 

[member 290103]

Liking Honka more than Jones at this stage in their development is extremely questionable. Agreed Zadorov and Pionk are good offers. Don’t know a ton about Hagg but Flyers fans were not high on him as recently as last year.

The Canucks won't trade Virtanen for Jones. Dim Benning will want a d-man in return that he can put in the lineup right away. They already have two D-prospects that should be on the team next year that are currently in the minors/college. They won't want another - that's not to say Jones is not good enough, just not the right player.

To be honest, the thought of Dim making this move scares me. He values d-men like Gudbranson, Pouliot, Sbisa, etc.