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This is entirely speculation. In all honesty, you have no idea why he was brought in. Neither do I.
It’s my opinion
This is entirely speculation. In all honesty, you have no idea why he was brought in. Neither do I.
No, he played stupid, dumber than Shaw. He didn't do near as much dirty work as Shaw did, didn't give near as much effort, and didn't seem to get under people's skin nearly as much.Wait you think Hartman didn't play with an edge? He probably played with too much of an edge. He's just as undisciplined as Shaw. The Hawks traded back for Shaw because the GM is pretty unoriginal when it comes to players and their pro scouting has pretty much sucked over the last 5-7 years.
Could have been better, as well.It's really bizarre to me that some people choose to ignore the importance of learning and practicing a system BEFORE the season starts. We actually watched how the hawks struggled last season while they were learning the new system. I know a lot of people have said that if JC had become the new HC before the season, they would have made the playoffs, and they're MAYBE right, but it was pretty obvious that his system was much better than Q's had become and the Hawks played better once they got the hang of it.
6-6-3(keep in mind all the OT games, this really could have been even worse)
Q is fired
3-13-2
Visibly start playing better
23-12-4
Hit a wall+fateful west coast trip
4-4-3
The Hawks haven't won a playoff series in 4 years despite having 3 no doubt hall of famers on the roster, why would anyone be negative? I didn't say the Hawks would suck next year, I just said people acting like an over under of 90.5 is insulting need to step out of their bubble.
In:
Shaw
de Hann
Maatta
Carpenter
Zack Smith
Lehner
Out:
Kunitz
Kruger
Kookoo
Cam. Freaking. Ward.
Anisimov
Hayden
Manning
The defense is going to be much improved.
When you have played a decade plus under the same exact system, it’s going to take some time to adjust.
I am trying to...I am seeing how learning a new hockey system mid stream is no big ****ing deal apparently..lol
When you completely change systems they are more complicated than you are implying. Also when you transition from systems that you've played in for 10 years you also lose a lot of the instincts you naturally develop over time. You take on this is fairly inaccurate.
I sometimes wonder how you're actually a hockey coach with some of the things you say. Not being a dick, just being honest...(although it probably still comes off dickish) You dismiss so many things that you probably shouldn't dismiss... It's kinda crazy. Although... not much in the way of systems being taught to 10-11 years old kids, so I kinda get it.
How long is it going to take them to adjust?
Should just close this. Do we really need another thread about people telling other people about how they were right?