Speculation: Sports Book USA has Hawks finishing season with 90.5 points

[Malagahawks]

Not much else to discuss at the mo. I am going to be bold and say we come close to 100 mainly because we have improved the goal tending & D 10 fold.

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[pvr]

Not much else to discuss at the mo. I am going to be bold and say we come close to 100 mainly because we have improved the goal tending & D 10 fold.

It all depends on how many points they get out of the Central.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

I will gladly take the over on that one.

 

[ChiHawk21]

+180 for the hawks to make the playoffs

 

[IU Hawks fan]

A mere 6 point improvement when you consider the pace they were on since about mid-December and the improvements they've made to the roster, and in net in particular, makes the over seem like a given.

But then again, so did the Cubs o88 and I'm sweating that.

 

[Illinihockey]

Not much else to discuss at the mo. I am going to be bold and say we come close to 100 mainly because we have improved the goal tending & D 10 fold.

I think the Hawks go over that but I do think Hawks fans are overrating how much the defense will be improved. We should be a lot better at goaltender though.

 

[Kurtosis]

I think the Hawks go over that but I do think Hawks fans are overrating how much the defense will be improved. We should be a lot better at goaltender though.

I think the forward group as a whole will play much better defense. I think that is being overlooked. The PK should be much better as well.

So while the group of defensemen is by no means incredible (and still includes Seabrook) I still think the defense will be much improved. And yes, the goaltending should be much better.

I’m guessing somewhere between 98-104 points.

 

[RayP]

I think the Hawks go over that but I do think Hawks fans are overrating how much the defense will be improved. We should be a lot better at goaltender though.

In:
Shaw
de Hann
Maatta
Carpenter
Zack Smith
Lehner

Out:
Kunitz
Kruger
Kookoo
Cam. Freaking. Ward.
Anisimov
Hayden
Manning

The defense is going to be much improved.

 

[featherhawk]

In:
Shaw
de Hann
Maatta
Carpenter
Zack Smith
Lehner

Out:
Kunitz
Kruger
Kookoo
Cam. Freaking. Ward.
Anisimov
Hayden
Manning

The defense is going to be much improved.

you forgot Kubalik and yes the guys coming in are much better than the guys going out...I think we will reach 100 its

 

[Hawkaholic]

Seems everyone else has the Hawks finishing worse than Hawk fans do.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I'm gonna say playing the over is a pretty safe bet.

 

[magnificent]

Nobody believes in the Hawks. It's okay after two bad seasons. People don't analyze rosters much and base their opinions on past performances.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Seems everyone else has the Hawks finishing worse than Hawk fans do.

pretty fair tho. would guess it will even out with the hawks gaining a little ground. between the roster getting better and everyone having career years last year with no injuries (crawford but didnt do much to the win totals as ward had a great record). the division is still tough and they projected a 6-7 point increase.

 

[RayP]

you forgot Kubalik and yes the guys coming in are much better than the guys going out...I think we will reach 100 its

I left him out only because I’m not 100% if he’s going to be a positive for the team from a defensive perspective.

 

[ColdSteel2]

This is about dead on where I have them, was thinking 89 points. The thing with the Hawks is there is so much volatility with all of the new players and injury concerns. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them finish anywhere from 75-105 points depending on how many things work out for them.

This is a free money bet for anyone that has a lot of confidence they will make the playoffs. For me, if they had this team going into last year, I’d be all over it. This season, the other teams in the West have improved way too much to take the risk IMO.

 

[RayP]

I think the Hawks go over that but I do think Hawks fans are overrating how much the defense will be improved. We should be a lot better at goaltender though.

Not to mention an entire off season for everyone to practice under the new systems. You don’t think that will make a big difference too?

 

[RayP]

This is about dead on where I have them, was thinking 89 points. The thing with the Hawks is there is so much volatility with all of the new players and injury concerns. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them finish anywhere from 75-105 points depending on how many things work out for them.

This is a free money bet for anyone that has a lot of confidence they will make the playoffs. For me, if they had this team going into last year, I’d be all over it. This season, the other teams in the West have improved way too much to take the risk IMO.

Last year they had 84 points while rostering the crap I posted above AND switching coaches in the middle of the season. You don’t think that’s a 5 point improvement?

Lehner over Ward is a 5 point improvement on his own if you ask me.

 

[Kurtosis]

This is about dead on where I have them, was thinking 89 points. The thing with the Hawks is there is so much volatility with all of the new players and injury concerns. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them finish anywhere from 75-105 points depending on how many things work out for them.

This is a free money bet for anyone that has a lot of confidence they will make the playoffs. For me, if they had this team going into last year, I’d be all over it. This season, the other teams in the West have improved way too much to take the risk IMO.

I would be pretty damn shocked if they finished with less than 80 points.

 

[RayP]

@ColdSteel2 who in the West has improved so much more than the Hawks?

 

[Illinihockey]

In:
Shaw
de Hann
Maatta
Carpenter
Zack Smith
Lehner

Out:
Kunitz
Kruger
Kookoo
Cam. Freaking. Ward.
Anisimov
Hayden
Manning

The defense is going to be much improved.

Those ins outside of de Hann (who probably won't be ready to start the season) and Lehner aren't anything to write come about. Like I said, Lehner is the big prize and should help reduce the amount of goals given up. But Maata, Smith, Carpenter....whatever.

 

[Illinihockey]

@ColdSteel2 who in the West has improved so much more than the Hawks?

Colorado

 

[RayP]

Those ins outside of de Hann (who probably won't be ready to start the season) and Lehner aren't anything to write come about. Like I said, Lehner is the big prize and should help reduce the amount of goals given up. But Maata, Smith, Carpenter....whatever.

Shaw is nothing?

Replacing Kunitz and Kruger who had to be some of the worst 4th liners in the league with one of the better 4th liners in the league is nothing?

Smith is probably a better defensive guy than AA at this point.

 

[Illinihockey]

Not to mention an entire off season for everyone to practice under the new systems. You don’t think that will make a big difference too?

This isn't football. Hockey systems just aren't that complicated

 

[Illinihockey]

Shaw is nothing?

Replacing Kunitz and Kruger who had to be some of the worst 4th liners in the league with one of the better 4th liners in the league is nothing?

Ya Shaw is just a guy. He's probably going to end up missing 20 games this season too

 

[RayP]

Colorado

Who all did they add and lose again?

This isn't football. Hockey systems just aren't that complicated

When you have played a decade plus under the same exact system, it’s going to take some time to adjust.