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That's a best case scenario.
More likely, this draft looks a lot like 2004 in the first few rounds, but without a Malkin or Ovechkin-type at the top.
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That's a best case scenario.
More likely, this draft looks a lot like 2004 in the first few rounds, but without a Malkin or Ovechkin-type at the top.
Huge assumption, HUGE.
You are completely ignoring the facts and just being emotional.
Fact: Spezza signed a $49M USD contract for seven years to play in Ottawa, the city according to you where the fans/media blame him for everything.
Fact: Less than one year ago, Spezza clearly stated he wanted to be captain of this team and lead it into the future.
So obviously after 10 years, all the lousy fans and media weren't bothering Spezza last fall.
It is too easy to blame the fans or the media for Spezza's weaknesses on the ice.
These things are on Spezza.
IMO there is a more likely explanation for the potential trade.
Management realizes without JS changing his game to some extent, they can't win with him without spending more money than is affordable and even then, no guarantee.
Management/coaches want to establish a work ethic based culture for this young team, a job that is impossible to accomplish if the captain doesn't offer and show his full support.
At the yearend interviews MacLean/Murray provide Spezza with their feedback, explaining, as captain, he needed to embrace the idea of change and work with MacLean.
What happened after that is anyone's guess, but IMO it lead to where the two sides are today.
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People are still digging into this draft? Yeah the top isn't sure fire star calibre players. But after that it's still a normal draft. Lots of luck involved.
Yeah, as another poster noted, the top 5 are comparable to several of the last few drafts and the top 3 in particular. Not quite on par with last year, but certainly comparable to the two years before that. But after 5, then there's a pretty good drop off.
Basically, it's not a great year to be drafting between 7-20, as there is a wide disparity of opinions on guys in that range. The guy picked at 30 might be ranked ahead of the guy picked 10th by several different teams. It's actually not a bad year to give up the 11th overall, although I'm sure our scouts would pick a good one at that spot. But they might get the same guy at 25 as they were going to pick at 11.
As such, if we get a 1st back in a Spezza deal, whether it's the 10th or 25th, I think we'll actually get a comparable player either way.
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We don't have a first so people are reassuring themselves that we didn't miss out on much
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I have a hard time believing that the team asking him to make changes to his game is what got Spezza to want out. It seems a bit surreal that a professional athelte would balk at something like that after the year the team had and Jason being a first-year captain.
If that's the case then good riddance to bad rubbish but it just sounds a bit out there. I wonder if they started talking about an extension and things went south, that coupled with everything else makes more sense to me.
If that's the case then good riddance to bad rubbish but it just sounds a bit out there. I wonder if they started talking about an extension and things went south, that coupled with everything else makes more sense to me.
Spezza has been pissed at the fans before a couple years back he was booed in the playoffs and told Murray he wouldnt mind a trade out of ottawa
It is probably the desire to win as well as the fans. I think it is clear he is telling the team he is not going to sign with them going forward
It is probably the desire to win as well as the fans. I think it is clear he is telling the team he is not going to sign with them going forward
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You can't play like a primadonna and lead a team. Hockey is a tough game. You need a leader who leads by example. This team will not win with him here. Bring in a couple tougher, less skilled players who go to the wall for the team and you will see improvement. I don't mean fighting I mean Battling.
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Evweryone is an expert on what qualities NHL players want in their captains. You'd think everyone here has played hockey at a high level to know these kinds of things. Must be the case.
everything from management to coaching and team members have all said spezza is a great person in the lockerroom
I really doubt bringing in less skilled 'tougher' players will make us a better team. You still have to score
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The way I see it is that there's a clear cut number 1 (Ekblad). After that there's a second tier of about 5-6 prospects. The first round of the draft after about the 10th pick is going to be a crapshoot. If you have a first round pick you are going to get a good player. Second round is where the talent really drops. After around 45-50 there's a significant drop. If we could get the 10th pick then we would get a very good prospect. Even with our 40th pick we'll still be getting a good player.
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You need to be an expert to tell a player he cheap shot a guy during a media scrum. Otherwise, you are asking to get chewed out.
On another note, as someone has previously mentioned, while there is no 'Malkin' or 'Ovechkin' (not that we know of at least, maybe a Datsyuk or Alfredsson type player in the later rounds?) type of surefire stars in this draft, Ekblad seems like he is likely going to be a capable NHL d-man, if nothing else.
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Hockey Prospect‘s has Ekblad 3rd
Red line Report has Ekblad 2nd
ISS has Ekblad 2nd
Future Considerations has Ekblad 1st
I'm not sure where McKeens has Ekblad, but they had him ranked 2nd in March.
I guess what I'm saying is there isn't a clear consensus that Ekblad is the BPA.
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Not among these services, but when listening to Tim Murray, he made it quite clear whoever gets 1st will 100% be taking Ekblad
I'm with Future Considerations and a few of the other scouts strongly believe that Ekblad is the consensus number 1! I personally think he is the best player too after watching him this year
I think Florida on record said they will take Ekblad if they don't trade the pick. Same with Calgary! But you're right, you never know just my opinion.
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I'm with Future Considerations and a few of the other scouts strongly believe that Ekblad is the consensus number 1! I personally think he is the best player too after watching him this year
I think Florida on record said they will take Ekblad if they don't trade the pick. Same with Calgary! But you're right, you never know just my opinion.
OH, FC means Future Considerations!
And here I thought your username meant Conor Football Club.
Florida would be wise to grab Ekblad — although they've put themselves into a great position, regardless. Their system is so stocked that they can afford to draft on BPA alone (whoever they may think that is) without even slight consideration given to position.
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I loved Sutton in his short time here. I remember Thrasher fans telling us how awful he was, and they couldn't fathom that maybe he got better since he left.
OH, FC means Future Considerations!
And here I thought your username meant Conor Football Club.
Florida would be wise to grab Ekblad — although they've put themselves into a great position, regardless. Their system is so stocked that they can afford to draft on BPA alone (whoever they may think that is) without even slight consideration given to position.
Nope
I do the regional scouting for the Ottawa area. So I scout a lot of Jr A and OHL.
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I guess the point is, there likely isn't league wide consensus like there was with Tavares, Stamkos, Crosby. I think best case this is like a Seguin vs Hall scenario, but even then I'm not sure. Some teams may even have Reinhart ahead of both (like ISS does).
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