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[Joe McGrath]

He has to play 10 games, Now I'm not sure if that means a goalie too but the rule says
Once a player has been claimed off waivers, they cannot be placed on waivers again for at least 30 days or until they have played in at least 10 games for their new team.

Freddy isn’t coming back in under 30 days. There is no issue.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

SIGN MRÁZEK.

 

[HisIceness]

Either he's as good as Patrick Roy or we kill him.

 

[MinJaBen]

Either he's as good as Patrick Roy or we kill him.

*sound of taps playing softly

 

[Chrispy]

SIGN MRÁZEK.

And while you're at it, see if that Bedard kid would like a raise. He might be something.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

He has to play 10 games, Now I'm not sure if that means a goalie too but the rule says
Once a player has been claimed off waivers, they cannot be placed on waivers again for at least 30 days or until they have played in at least 10 games for their new team.

Where did you get this from? Google just brings it back to this page.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Where did you get this from? Google just brings it back to this page.

Waiver rules I have seen

If they pass through waivers then waiver isn’t necessary for 30 days or 10 games.

If they are claimed on waivers and don’t spend more than 30 days or play in 10 games, they must be offered back to their original team before going through waivers.

You can’t trade a player who you claimed on waivers that year until after the conclusion of the playoffs.

 

[hblueridgegal]

I saw pics of FA looking dapper at the Justin Williams ceremony. Is he required to show up for every game - is that protocol unless sick? Feels awkward.

 

[To Be Determined]

i'd be fine with it if he decided to be this year's version of alex lyon going on a totally random heater for the panthers...

 

[mikeyfan]

Where did you get this from? Google just brings it back to this page.

NHL waiver rules: The easy to understand guide - Hockey Answered

General Managers are always trying to make their team better, and one of the most straightforward ways to do this is by swapping players between your NHL team and AHL affiliate (minor league team).

hockeyanswered.com

 

[Lempo]

Where did you get this from? Google just brings it back to this page.

It's kind of turned the other way around and messed up for that presentation, the CBA paragraph in question rather states when you're prohibited from waiving a player:

13.2 The "Playing Season Waiver Period" shall begin on the twelfth (12th) day prior to the
start of the Regular Season and end on the day following the last day of a Club's Playing Season.
Subject to the provisions of this Article, the rights to the services of a Player may be Loaned to a
club of another league, upon fulfillment of the following conditions, except when elsewhere
expressly prohibited:
(a) Regular Waivers were requested and cleared during the Playing Season Waiver
Period; and
(b) the Player has not played in ten (10) or more NHL Games cumulative since
Regular Waivers on him were last cleared, and more than thirty (30) days cumulative on an NHL
roster have not passed since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared.

But it does have the point, you may be a bit stuck with a player when you go claiming him off the waivers and he very specifically haven't cleared the waivers. So in a bit funny turn of events it makes sense for a team to first let a player clear the waivers and then trade for him for a 5th or so.

But I understand this paragraph does not prevent you from re-waiving a player you claimed off waivers, or was it that you have to first offer him to to other teams who put in a claim the last time around before you can send him down.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Then how did we waive Boychuk, who got claimed by Pitt, who then waived him and got claimed by NSH, who then waived him and got claimed by Carolina?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

It's kind of turned the other way around and messed up for that presentation, the CBA paragraph in question rather states when you're prohibited from waiving a player:



But it does have the point, you may be a bit stuck with a player when you go claiming him off the waivers and he very specifically haven't cleared the waivers. So in a bit funny turn of events it makes sense for a team to first let a player clear the waivers and then trade for him for a 5th or so.

But I understand this paragraph does not prevent you from re-waiving a player you claimed off waivers, or was it that you have to first offer him to to other teams who put in a claim the last time around before you can send him down.

That doesn’t say you can’t put him on waivers. Section 13, waivers, doesn’t prohibit you putting a player on waivers inside that time frame.
That section is just saying you can’t loan him to another club if he hasn’t passed through waivers

 

[Lempo]

That doesn’t say you can’t put him on waivers. Section 13, waivers, doesn’t prohibit you putting a player on waivers inside that time frame.
That section is just saying you can’t loan him to another club if he hasn’t passed through waivers

Yes, and indeed there is a separate paragraph on specifics when you waiver a player you claimed off waivers.

13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently,
in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the
successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled
to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being
asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative)
and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful
claim.

They wouldn't need to mention cumulative if fast re-waiving during the 30 days/10 games after claiming a player off waivers wasn't allowed.

The bit I previously quoted is really more about the waiver-related requirements prior the Loan of a player to a lower league.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

NHL waiver rules: The easy to understand guide - Hockey Answered

General Managers are always trying to make their team better, and one of the most straightforward ways to do this is by swapping players between your NHL team and AHL affiliate (minor league team).

hockeyanswered.com

I don't think that's right. We waived Boychuk on Jan 30, who was claimed by Pitt. Pitt then waived him on Mar 4 and he claimed by NSH, who waived him on March 20th and was claimed by Carolina.

 

[Lempo]

I don't think that's right. We waived Boychuk on Jan 30, who was claimed by Pitt. Pitt then waived him on Mar 4 and he claimed by NSH, who waived him on March 20th and was claimed by Carolina.

It looks like Hockey Answered has set themselves up into a logical trap of their own misunderstanding, which is simple to do if you focus too much on the idea of the waivers procedure to disallow a NHL team from sending down a player if he's good enough to be a roster player on some other NHL team.

They got too hung up to the idea that such a player can't be sent down even by the new team, which is not the case.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Whatever the mechanics, it's pretty clear that this move has very little to do with Andersen either way. If Andersen is ready to come back, there are several ways to make room for him, and plenty of reasons to do so.

 

[mikeyfan]

Waiver rules I have seen

If they pass through waivers then waiver isn’t necessary for 30 days or 10 games.

If they are claimed on waivers and don’t spend more than 30 days or play in 10 games, they must be offered back to their original team before going through waivers.

You can’t trade a player who you claimed on waivers that year until after the conclusion of the playoffs.

Here is 13.20 of the CBA
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13.20 (a) The Club acquiring a Player by Waiver claim shall take an Assignment of thePlayer's SPC. Nevertheless, if the Commissioner determines that a Player acquired by Waiverclaim is not physically fit at the time the claim is made, the Club making the claim may refuse totake an Assignment of such Player's SPC and the request for Waivers shall be canceled.

(b) A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to anotherClub until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first

offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requestedoriginally and the offer has been refused.

 

[Justicebork]

This post is informative and it also makes me want to get my high school buddies together to start a prog rock band called Waiverclaim

Here is 13.20 of the CBA
CBA_Cover_Front_FINAL_r1_OL



13.20 (a) The Club acquiring a Player by Waiver claim shall take an Assignment of thePlayer's SPC. Nevertheless, if the Commissioner determines that a Player acquired by Waiverclaim is not physically fit at the time the claim is made, the Club making the claim may refuse totake an Assignment of such Player's SPC and the request for Waivers shall be canceled.

(b) A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to anotherClub until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first

offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requestedoriginally and the offer has been refused.

 

[Lempo]

Here is 13.20 of the CBA
CBA_Cover_Front_FINAL_r1_OL



13.20 (a) The Club acquiring a Player by Waiver claim shall take an Assignment of thePlayer's SPC. Nevertheless, if the Commissioner determines that a Player acquired by Waiverclaim is not physically fit at the time the claim is made, the Club making the claim may refuse totake an Assignment of such Player's SPC and the request for Waivers shall be canceled.

(b) A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to anotherClub until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first

offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requestedoriginally and the offer has been refused.

This is to stop a team from abusing the waivers system by claiming a player for free and then trading him to some other team for gain. So if the team with a successful waivers claim decides they don't want the guy after all, they can't just trade him but they have to kind of go back to that previous waivers process and and give the other then-unsuccessful claimants dips on him with the original terms.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Here is 13.20 of the CBA
CBA_Cover_Front_FINAL_r1_OL



13.20 (a) The Club acquiring a Player by Waiver claim shall take an Assignment of thePlayer's SPC. Nevertheless, if the Commissioner determines that a Player acquired by Waiverclaim is not physically fit at the time the claim is made, the Club making the claim may refuse totake an Assignment of such Player's SPC and the request for Waivers shall be canceled.

(b) A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to anotherClub until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first

offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requestedoriginally and the offer has been refused.

That doesn't mean a team is "Stuck with him for the full season". They can waive him and if he's claimed, the other team gets him. If he's not claimed, they can send him down or trade him.

Again, Boychuck was waived 4 times in 1 season and claimed by 3 different teams before being sent to the AHL.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

So there isn’t a rule limiting a gaining team from waiving the player. Just the steps to do so

 

[Derailed75]

This post is informative and it also makes me want to get my high school buddies together to start a prog rock band called Waiverclaim

Be original make it a prog death metal band

 

[Lempo]

Be original make it a prog death metal band

Waiverclaim would be right at home with Witherscape on a festival poster.

 

[Derailed75]

Waiverclaim would be right at home with Witherscape on a festival poster.

True