Confirmed with Link: Soshnikov to St Louis for a 2019 4th Round Pick

[The List Of Jericho]

This is how I feel as well. I would have preferred to trade Martin and kept Sosh.

St. Louis has acquired talent on the cheap at our expense in the past, and they just did it again.

The young guys love Martin, couple that with his contract and he’s almost unmovable unless you put him on waivers

 

[Slyfox]

Feels like we lost the trade. Sosh was imo the leo/Martin replacement. STL might have won another trade with us.

 

[Damisoph]

Feels like we lost the trade. Sosh was imo the leo/Martin replacement. STL might have won another trade with us.

Well, if Sosh becomes a serviceable 3rd or 4th liner for STL, they've won the trade as statistically it's not very likely a 4th rounder becomes a NHL player. Not much else we could do, roster crunch.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Good luck to him, no room however with these wingers: Nylander, Marner, Brown, Kapanen, Marleau, Hyman, Grundstrom guaranteed to make the team.

 

[Kiwi]

So now we've cleared a contract spot, have 5.4M in cap space and plenty of picks the next two seasons including 2 2nd's this year and the Marlies are stocked with some guys that are close

Looks like we're about go shopping

 

[Daisy Jane]

had he been able to stay healthy imo he'd be here. so hopefully he can be healthy and have a relatively decent career. but we have a contract spot available, and now we can do something at deadline day.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Well, if Sosh becomes a serviceable 3rd or 4th liner for STL, they've won the trade as statistically it's not very likely a 4th rounder becomes a NHL player. Not much else we could do, roster crunch.

The only risk for St. Louis is that Sosh has been on the IR far too often for such a young player. If he can manage to stay healthy, they win this trade hands down.

 

[garce]

Why would you not just wait the Leafs out then, knowing eventually they had to waive him?

Lol Because they might trade him to St Louis? Kinda splitting hairs here on a off hand comment on the difference between a 4th or 3rd.

 

[Steveei]

Fourth rnd pick for someone who is nothing special and can be replaced. Good trade.

 

[OppositeLocK]

So now we've cleared a contract spot, have 5.4M in cap space and plenty of picks the next two seasons including 2 2nd's this year and the Marlies are stocked with some guys that are close

Looks like we're about go shopping

Hopefully we keep selling and go on a buying spree in July starting with Tavares.

 

[Slyfox]

Well, if Sosh becomes a serviceable 3rd or 4th liner for STL, they've won the trade as statistically it's not very likely a 4th rounder becomes a NHL player. Not much else we could do, roster crunch.

Could have waived Martin or even traded him. Also could have moved Komarov. I think Sosh can be a good player with good linemates. We'll have to see I guess.

 

[Randy Randerson]

Feels like we lost the trade. Sosh was imo the leo/Martin replacement. STL might have won another trade with us.

in terms of value in a vacuum, Sosh is way more likely to be a regular NHL'er than that pick

but, our back was against the wall a little, and honestly think that guys with higher ceilings were going to take Sosh's spot even as a bottom line replacement. Johnsson/Grundstrom are knocking on the door and both have those 2 way abilities with more ceiling

good problems, at least we got an asset back. Hopefully it's the 4th rounder that turns into our Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Kaprizov/etc

maybe there's something to be said about keeping the relationship going with a regular trade partner too. Good chance they'll be happy with the result of this trade, and we'll have more excess assets down the road

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

I guess I'm happy we kept Leivo over Sosh?

Lol what's the plan for Leivo anyway?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Hopefully we keep selling and go on a buying spree in July starting with Tavares.

No point in wasting a good year, trade for JT now and re-sign him for 8.

Hyman Matthews Nylander
Marleau Kadri Marner
JVR Tavares Brown
Komarov Bozak Kapanen
Moore

Rielly Hainsey
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Polak
Borgman Carrick

Andersen
Mcelhinney

Trade Martin and Leivo

 

[MJ65]

All the best Sosh

 

[Kiwi]

Lol what's the plan for Leivo anyway?

Trade him next I'd imagine

 

[rent free]

hopefully he turns out to be crap so it looks like we didn't give up much

 

[Menzinger]

Do wish him the best, hope he shows he’s an NHLer with the Blues.

 

[Kelly]

hopefully he turns out to be crap so it looks like we didn't give up much

Yikes.

I hope Sosh does well in STL, seemed like a good kid.

 

[rent free]

Yikes.

I hope Sosh does well in STL, seemed like a good kid.

i don't hate him, i wish he kept him because he'd be great on the 4th line next year, but i don't wanna lose another trade, even if its a minor one

 

[Kelly]

i don't hate him, i wish he kept him because he'd be great on the 4th line next year, but i don't wanna lose another trade, even if its a minor one

Well we signed him for nothing, so the 4th rounder is only gravey. Even if he does turn out to be a gem for St. Louis, I doubt he would ever had the chance to do that here. Way too much depth on the wings ahead of him.

Also Leafs don't lose a lot of trades, so I'm not sure what you're on about.

 

[Al14]

In B4 someone posts that it should have been Bozak that was traded!

 

[Rare Jewel]

People are getting trade drunk now.

 

[htpwn]

Lol Because they might trade him to St Louis? Kinda splitting hairs here on a off hand comment on the difference between a 4th or 3rd.

The difference between a 3rd and 4th is actually pretty significant: A player picked in the 3rd round has about a 25% (or 1 in 4) chance of turning into an NHL player. The odds in the 4th round drop to about ~15% and then down to ~12% for rounds 5-7. In other words, after the top 90 or 100 players are picked, there's a significant drop-off in talent. That's why a 3rd would have been nice. Mind you, it would have also been a pleasant surprise. I don't think expecting a 3rd for a player like Soshnikov was realistic.

Ultimately, I think this is a good buy for St. Louis. Soshnikov has the toolbox to be a quality 2nd or 3rd liner in this league: The skating, the shot, the willingness to engage physically is all there. The only question marks are his hockey IQ and whether his body can withstand the rigors of an NHL season. So far, the answer has been no. At worst, they've got a decent 4th liner who can kill penalties. All for a pick unlikely to turn into anything.

From the Leafs perspective, Lou and co. got what they could get, but I feel as if they sort of backed themselves into this corner. They built up quite the stable of young, NHL ready forwards but have a coach who has a strong preference for the veteran and refused to move on from players like Leo Komarov. Not what I'd consider to be strong asset management. Fortunately... they also seem to be good at finding these guys. Sosh, of course, was a free wallet in the first place. Here's hoping the contract spot gives us some flexibility moving forward and that pick actually gets used on someone talented, not another hulking defenseman with questionable skating.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The return exceeded anyone's reasonable expectations, roster jam and he was coming off an injury.