So Braden Holtby is a back up now?

[SurferBroChad]

He was signed as Seattle fodder, that’s why the length was 2 years

to be fair not too many hf boarders can think that far ahead

 

[RandV]

We knew, Expansion draft fodder

If he can't even at least keep up with Demko then no way Seattle takes him when he's owed $5.7M salary next season. Maybe there was the intention of a plan somewhere in there but at this point it's yet another entirely predictable bad UFA contract.

 

[lawrence]

3.7 million dollar back up.

 

[Three On Zero]

If he can't even at least keep up with Demko then no way Seattle takes him when he's owed $5.7M salary next season. Maybe there was the intention of a plan somewhere in there but at this point it's yet another entirely predictable bad UFA contract.

We needed a goalie to expose, it’s actually a fine UFA signing.

 

[Peen]

...now? What do you mean now? He was a backup last year too

was a backup in the year they lost the cup and only got the net back due to injury

it’s been an obvious downward trend for years

 

[Peen]

We needed a goalie to expose, it’s actually a fine UFA signing.

yeah let’s sign a shit goalie to a bloated negative value deal that hampered us from signing the middle six forward(s) and/or defender(s) to meet the requirements a guy at league min could have provided for better performance

 

[Three On Zero]

yeah let’s sign a shit goalie to a bloated negative value deal that hampered us from signing the middle six forward(s) and/or defender(s) to meet the requirements a guy at league min could have provided for better performance

The Holtby signing didn’t hamper us from resigning anyone. It’s the dumb contracts given out prior to this year that did

 

[Peen]

The Holtby signing didn’t hamper us from resigning anyone. It’s the dumb contracts given out prior to this year that did

They all do.

Holtby vs the league minimum alternative is like $3.5MM.

There were a ton of fantastic guys we could have gotten in the UFA market at that tag. Unfortunate.

 

[Three On Zero]

They all do.

Holtby vs the league minimum alternative is like $3.5MM.

There were a ton of fantastic guys we could have gotten in the UFA market at that tag. Unfortunate.

Like?

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Holtby misses his goalie whisperer, Mitch Korn.

 

[Peen]

Like?

GDT: - Free Agent Frenzy / Fantasy GM Thread - Part 2

Been discussed over and over in the free agent frenzy threads.

 

[Three On Zero]

GDT: - Free Agent Frenzy / Fantasy GM Thread - Part 2

Been discussed over and over in the free agent frenzy threads.

I’m not going through 42 pages because you’re too lazy to back up your claims

 

[Peen]

Like?

Looking through my own post history, here's a list of guys I'd suggested (on top of saying that Toffoli, Leivo, Stecher were mistakes to lose at the costs we lost them for)

John Merrill, Jesper Fast, Alex Wennberg, Craig Smith, offersheeting Cirelli.

Just a bunch of value guys - and those are the guys I proposed without taking into account the rest of excellent value gambles to be had.

 

[Love]

The Holtby signing essentially allowed us to keep Demko away from Seattle and have a solid backup. I have no problem with it.

 

[Three On Zero]

Looking through my own post history, here's a list of guys I'd suggested (on top of saying that Toffoli, Leivo, Stecher were mistakes to lose at the costs we lost them for)

John Merrill, Jesper Fast, Alex Wennberg, Craig Smith, offersheeting Cirelli.

Just a bunch of value guys - and those are the guys I proposed without taking into account the rest of excellent value gambles to be had.

Neat, but none of those are goalies

 

[Peen]

I’m not going through 42 pages because you’re too lazy to back up your claims

True man it's a lot easier to just post well thought out content like Holtby wasn't a bad signing

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I actually thought he was decent to start the year.

The stats won't show it - b/c the Canucks weren't able to play any kind of defense - but he looked dialed in at times and made a bunch of saves he probably shouldn't have. He was better than Demko initially I'd say.

Recently Holtby's been up & down - (played his best game against CGY, then cost us the game against WPG) - as Demko has gotten better.

I still think Holtby's capable of playing well & helping a team, but right now its Demko's net. (Though in fairness that was always the goal)

 

[Three On Zero]

True man it's a lot easier to just post well thought out content like Holtby wasn't a bad signing

He wasn’t. He was signed for a purpose and he’s being used for that purpose

 

[Three On Zero]

I actually thought he was decent to start the year.

The stats won't show it - b/c the Canucks weren't able to play any kind of defense - but he looked dialed in at times and made a bunch of saves he probably shouldn't have. He was better than Demko initially I'd say.

Recently Holtby's been up & down - (played his best game against CGY, then cost us the game against WPG) - as Demko has gotten better.

I still think Holtby's capable of playing well & helping a team, but right now its Demko's net. (Though in fairness that was always the goal)

Overall he’s been fine, he has gotten no support from the team in front of him.

 

[Peen]

He wasn’t. He was signed for a purpose and he’s being used for that purpose

If this is your logic, you can defend anything.

Just because someone fills a purpose (poorly I might add) doesn't mean he made sense relative to the next best option.

 

[Three On Zero]

If this is your logic, you can defend anything.

Just because someone fills a purpose (poorly I might add) doesn't mean he made sense relative to the next best option.

And the next best option was?

 

[Regal]

Holtby's been pretty terrible recently. He's flopping around like Tim Thomas but without the puck tracking or athleticism. If he doesn't improve he shouldn't even be a backup.

 

[deckercky]

They all do.

Holtby vs the league minimum alternative is like $3.5MM.

There were a ton of fantastic guys we could have gotten in the UFA market at that tag. Unfortunate.

Demko wasn't (and still isn't) a goalie you can run into the ground - the Canucks needed a competent 1B to take pressure off him. Holtby was kind of in the range with other 1B options. Goalies were actually at a premium this offseason despite covid.

Obviously, there was hope that he could have a resurgence under Ian Clark and that didn't work.

 

[Peen]

And the next best option was?

Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign G Braden Holtby to 2-Year Deal ($4.3M AAV)

Numerous goalies discussed in this thread. It's really not hard to read - I think you should try it instead of posting more about Holtby not being a mistake.

Trade candidates & UFA's mentioned in this thread.

I don't really feel the need to spell things out for a guy who's defending spending $4.3MM for bottom five league goaltending who can easily go read a thread himself. Asking for sources when you're trying to act as if a shit goalie as seen below or by eye test is good is a little bit funny. There's lots of content available for you.

NHL Stats

Holtby ranks T-5th last in the league in normal counting stats among the 39 goalies with 10 or more games played.

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

Holtby ranks 3rd last in GSAA/60 among 39 goalies at 5 on 5.

Good night man. Hopefully these statistics or rewatching Holtby's performances will change your mind.

 

[YippieKaey]

He won the Vezina in 2016, not 2018.

He has been on a slow downward trend ever since 2016.

He did win a Cup in 2018. But he also lost his starter's job for short stretches a couple of times since 2016.

Lost it to Grubauer for instance