So Babcock needs to go

[BertCorbeau]

Have to wonder how long the Leafs struggles would have to continue for in order for Babcock to get the axe.

 

[weems]

You don't need a proven coach with this group IMO. You need someone they can work with and not against.

Look at all these names coaching the teams at the top of the standings or who went far last season

Craig Berube
Jared Bednar
Bruce Cassidy
Rod BrindAmour
Ralph Kruger (if someone is willing to buy the Buf hype)

Not exactly the who's who of the coaching fraternity

If we're going to make a change, we shouldnt be afraid to go with someone thats unproven.

 

[Faltorvo]

You don't need a proven coach with this group IMO. You need someone they can work with and not against.

your arrogence is beyond astounding

Until another head coach comes in here and has the same issues as Babcock, I am reserving my opinion of Dubas and the construction of this roster. I believe it is good enough to win, if it is provided the proper game plan to take advantage of the skills our roster presents. However, forcing a style or game plan on a group of players not suited to that game plan is totally on the coach, especially in a situation like this where it is clearly NOT working.

i'm sorry

what is "the proper game plan"?

what exactly is babs doing wrong, i would love to hear it.

 

[Faltorvo]

You don't need a proven coach with this group IMO. You need someone they can work with and not against.

wow do you even over value this roster

 

[Trapper]

your arrogence is beyond astounding

i'm sorry

what is "the proper game plan"?

what exactly is babs doing wrong, i would love to hear it.

We need a coaching change to expose what is here.
Then we need a Raptors trade of high end (not Kadri or a Kapanen) to bring drive train in here.

 

[Faltorvo]

Look at all these names coaching the teams at the top of the standings or who went far last season

Craig Berube
Jared Bednar
Bruce Cassidy
Rod BrindAmour
Ralph Kruger (if someone is willing to buy the Buf hype)

Not exactly the who's who of the coaching fraternity

If we're going to make a change, we shouldnt be afraid to go with someone thats unproven.

you can't force players to play 200 foot hockey

you can't force players to have each others backs.

 

[Faltorvo]

We need a coaching change to expose what is here.
Then we need a Raptors trade of high end (not Kadri or a Kapanen) to bring drive train in here.

IF you do a coaching change right now then you are letting the inmates run the asylum

and the media dictate policy

 

[jaric1862]

What specific changes do people see Keefe making over what babs is doing now? different line combos? different PKers? how does his systems differ from babs from everyones viewing of the Marlies?

 

[Trapper]

IF you do a coaching change right now then you are letting the inmates run the asylum

and the media dictate policy

They might already be dictating it from what we see. And if they are, they are the wrong bunch anyway.

 

[Byron Bitz]

What specific changes do people see Keefe making over what babs is doing now? different line combos? different PKers? how does his systems differ from babs from everyones viewing of the Marlies?

He would give PP1 more ice time. Crazy how Babcock keeps making them change after the first time the puck gets cleared 30 seconds into the PP.

 

[mcleex]

If anyone needs to go it's Dubass. Don't be surprised when he hands Barrie a $9M extension

 

[Hockey Crazy]

Which good coaches are out there? Other than Keefe who is unproven at the nhl level

I like Keefe. I hate the recycling of old coaches in the NHL

 

[Ifittex il Verita]

There is a notable divide between how hard our bottom 6 works versus how hard our top 6 works.
Crazy really.
Have the big money boys really tuned Babcock out?

 

[Carltons Cup]

Have to wonder how long the Leafs struggles would have to continue for in order for Babcock to get the axe.

I think Dubas waits to see how the team performs with a full lineup (jt, hyman and dermott).

If they don't measure up after 10 games, Babcock goes.

 

[stickty111]

What specific changes do people see Keefe making over what babs is doing now? different line combos? different PKers? how does his systems differ from babs from everyones viewing of the Marlies?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

well he called out the top players again. Yeah Marner and Matthews were bad, but I don't think it's an effective strategy to keep throwing players under the bus

 

[Superstar]

If anyone needs to go it's Dubass. Don't be surprised when he hands Barrie a $9M extension

He would if he had any cap space left...

 

[Matthews34]

This is so stupid it hurts my head

this or you?

 

[Faltorvo]

They might already be dictating it from what we see. And if they are, they are the wrong bunch anyway.

well then it's time for shanny to step up against the inmates.

 

[Stephen]

I see why Babcock is someone that a lot of fans dislike, but I really do sympathize with his position having to work with an unresponsive core and a very flawed roster. He seems to get a lot out of the middle six, bottom 9 kind of guys but has lost the plot with the big guns. The defense is beyond terrible.

My biggest concern with firing Babcock is having Matthews, Marner and friends turn the replacement into a Peter Horacek. Inmates run the asylum. No veteran supervision.

 

[Teeder Keon]

your arrogence is beyond astounding

i'm sorry

what is "the proper game plan"?

what exactly is babs doing wrong, i would love to hear it.

his approach , game plan , personality and methods of motivation are not penetrating and inspiring the young core of our group , plain and simple , it’s strikingly obvious and has been going on for 60-75 games now
These are facts
I’m not saying he’s a horrible coach
Just not the coach for this team at the moment and how they are being built and building towards the future .
That’s all man

 

[Gallagbi]

I see why Babcock is someone that a lot of fans dislike, but I really do sympathize with his position having to work with an unresponsive core and a very flawed roster. He seems to get a lot out of the middle six, bottom 9 kind of guys but has lost the plot with the big guns. The defense is beyond terrible.

My biggest concern with firing Babcock is having Matthews, Marner and friends turn the replacement into a Peter Horacek. Inmates run the asylum. No veteran supervision.

If the next coach becomes Horacek, they become Phaneuf/Kessel and don't stick around too long

 

[jaric1862]

Excellent reply, I was actually curious. Thank you!

 

[Teeder Keon]

Another jibber jabber post game interview from Babcock
I’m surprised only that he thought they played ok for the most part
Same post game yadda yadda yadda
But nothing here to see , move on

 

[Faltorvo]

There is a notable divide between how hard our bottom 6 works versus how hard our top 6 works.
Crazy really.
Have the big money boys really tuned Babcock out?

moore/goat and timo have 59 combined hits

matty/marn/nylander have 8

let that sink in.