Smaller Promotions Discussion (MFC, Dream, Sengoku, Invicta, ect)

[BGDDYKWL]

Just a heads up for those (like myself) who didn't know there was a pretty solid Bellator event on Spike tonight. Rampage and Mitrione are both fighting (not each other).

 

[Rocko604]

Well that Rampage fight was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Just retire already.

 

[Avs_19]

Impressive KO win for Chandler.

Rampage beats Ishii in a very forgettable fight where nothing happened. I actually thought he lost but it could have gone either way. It was terrible though.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

As a West coaster with cable, I had to wait 3 hours later. I enjoyed the lightweight title bout. What a KO. Why wasn't it the main event?

 

[Wood Stick]

As a West coaster with cable, I had to wait 3 hours later. I enjoyed the lightweight title bout. What a KO. Why wasn't it the main event?

Because Rampage has the name value. Bellator's been doing that a lot, promoting the big name. Ken Shamrock, Kimbo Slice, Royce Gracie,etc, etc have all been promoted over their young and upcoming talent - including championship fights. A lot of Bellator has been reminding me of Strikeforce with a big three in a division or so.

I know a lot of people, MMA viewers really enjoyed the kickboxing aspect of this event though. That's a positive sign. Really want to see a legit number two company which would give fighters a reason to test the market and get paid. Scott Coker did a great job finding talent in SF, landing some legit up and coming talents in Luke Rockhold, Daniel Cormier, OSP, and Lorenz Larkin. Signed veterans in Fabrico Werdum, Bigfoot Silva, Nick Diaz, along with bringing in some great guys under the radar not fighting in North America like Jacare Souza.

Been slightly disappointed with Coker Bellator though.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

I like Rampage but man that was rough. And I'm not accusing Bellator of anything, but you get the feeling a fair amount of the time that the guy Bellator wants to win ends up getting the nod in close fights. Not a chance in hell Rampage won the first round in that fight. Also, Mitrione was out and they didn't stop his fight, but as soon as he hurt his opponent the ref immediately jumped in. Those two fights nearly ended in a nightmare scenario for Bellator.

 

[Rocko604]

Is it just me, or does KSW never put on a bad card? Every time I catch one I'm always entertained.

 

[the pen is mightier]

I like Rampage but man that was rough. And I'm not accusing Bellator of anything, but you get the feeling a fair amount of the time that the guy Bellator wants to win ends up getting the nod in close fights. Not a chance in hell Rampage won the first round in that fight. Also, Mitrione was out and they didn't stop his fight, but as soon as he hurt his opponent the ref immediately jumped in. Those two fights nearly ended in a nightmare scenario for Bellator.

The promoters have no say in how the fights are officiated, that is all on the respective commission and referee. Fights are stopped at the discretion of that particular ref, controversial or not. Promoters are as much in control as the crowd watching.

 

[ck26]

Michael Page cracked Cyborg Santos's skull with a flying knee at Bellator 158. Easily the worst injury I've ever seen in MMA. Good heavens ...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/evangelista-cyborg-santos-suffers-gruesome-8439882

 

[Suxnet]

Time for Rizin boys.

 

[tmurfin]

Ol' Krazy Horse still at it, 7 second KO, than beefin with Wand backstage what year is this

 

[ck26]

Ol' Krazy Horse still at it, 7 second KO, than beefin with Wand backstage what year is this

For a guy who is supposed to be a professional kick boxer, that Minoru Kimura guy was throwing a really stupid kick and he absolutely crumpled after one punch. If I didn't know better, I'd accuse Rizin of being just as shady as Pri ... oh, wait.

Regardless of how fugazi that looked, Krazy Horse is one of my favorite fighters ever. The interview he did with Bas Rutten before / after his loss to Gomi in Bushido is a thing of legend. He throws heat and he talks heat and he's not long for this world.

That Rizin open weight tournament looks random as hell, Bennett needs to get into that and knock Wanderlei out for real.

 

[tacogeoff]

decent small venue event happening in Medicine Hat AB October 28th. Fight Night 2.

Main Card:
135lbs- Jesse Arnett (11-4) vs. Johnny Bedford (20-12-1)
***Bantamweight Title Fight (Vacant)

170lbs- Joe Riggs (41-17) vs. Cody McKenzie (15-9)
205lbs- Todd Stoute (8-3) vs. Victor Valimaki (18-10)
170lbs- Roger Bowling (11-5-1) vs. Vik Grujic (6-5)
185lbs- Matt Baker (13-9-1) vs. Dustin Long (7-3)
135lbs- Austin Ryan (6-0) vs. Joe Murphy (8-4)
145lbs- Kyle Nelson (8-1) vs. Jonathan Brookins (15-8)
170lbs- Matt MacGrath (18-8) vs. Ryan Quinn (12-6-1)

 

[tmurfin]

decent small venue event happening in Medicine Hat AB October 28th. Fight Night 2.

Main Card:
135lbs- Jesse Arnett (11-4) vs. Johnny Bedford (20-12-1)
***Bantamweight Title Fight (Vacant)

170lbs- Joe Riggs (41-17) vs. Cody McKenzie (15-9)
205lbs- Todd Stoute (8-3) vs. Victor Valimaki (18-10)
170lbs- Roger Bowling (11-5-1) vs. Vik Grujic (6-5)
185lbs- Matt Baker (13-9-1) vs. Dustin Long (7-3)
135lbs- Austin Ryan (6-0) vs. Joe Murphy (8-4)
145lbs- Kyle Nelson (8-1) vs. Jonathan Brookins (15-8)
170lbs- Matt MacGrath (18-8) vs. Ryan Quinn (12-6-1)

Damn that is pretty decent. Might have to go for a drive on the 28th!

 

[tacogeoff]

Damn that is pretty decent. Might have to go for a drive on the 28th!

its not too shabby. have a friend that is going to watch it and was contemplating making the trip with him.

 

[Wood Stick]

its not too shabby. have a friend that is going to watch it and was contemplating making the trip with him.

That's a really good regional card. I loved Bedford on TUF.

 

[the pen is mightier]

decent small venue event happening in Medicine Hat AB October 28th. Fight Night 2.

Main Card:
135lbs- Jesse Arnett (11-4) vs. Johnny Bedford (20-12-1)
***Bantamweight Title Fight (Vacant)

170lbs- Joe Riggs (41-17) vs. Cody McKenzie (15-9)
205lbs- Todd Stoute (8-3) vs. Victor Valimaki (18-10)
170lbs- Roger Bowling (11-5-1) vs. Vik Grujic (6-5)
185lbs- Matt Baker (13-9-1) vs. Dustin Long (7-3)
135lbs- Austin Ryan (6-0) vs. Joe Murphy (8-4)
145lbs- Kyle Nelson (8-1) vs. Jonathan Brookins (15-8)
170lbs- Matt MacGrath (18-8) vs. Ryan Quinn (12-6-1)

I think I know the site you pulled this from. I see one of those fights I expect to fall through.

 

[MD thaivuN]

in true bellator fashion, Marloes Coenen is fighting for Bellator's inaugural Women's Featherweight belt after getting finished by Alexis Dufresne. The latter, fighting on the same card, just got finished by a 5-5 fighter.

 

[kurt]

in true bellator fashion, Marloes Coenen is fighting for Bellator's inaugural Women's Featherweight belt after getting finished by Alexis Dufresne. The latter, fighting on the same card, just got finished by a 5-5 fighter.

"Bellator fashion"... didn't Rousey get a title shot coming off a loss? And Holm? And Miesha Tate? Nick Diaz? Chael Sonnen? Frankie Edgar? BJ Penn? Shogun Rua? Dan Henderson? Randy Couture?

Enough with the organization biases, gang.

 

[Wood Stick]

"Bellator fashion"... didn't Rousey get a title shot coming off a loss? And Holm? And Miesha Tate? Nick Diaz? Chael Sonnen? Frankie Edgar? BJ Penn? Shogun Rua? Dan Henderson? Randy Couture?

Enough with the organization biases, gang.

Only one I'm not totally against up top is Shogun Rua.. I guess Dan Henderson too considering everything.

 

[Rocko604]

in true bellator fashion, Marloes Coenen is fighting for Bellator's inaugural Women's Featherweight belt after getting finished by Alexis Dufresne. The latter, fighting on the same card, just got finished by a 5-5 fighter.

In true UFC fashion, Holy Holm fought for the UFC's inaugural Women's Featherweight belt after losing two in a row, one of whom to a fighter who was beaten into retirement in her first match after Holm.

FWIW, she went up, and lost in TKO-4 against Vancouver's Julia Budd, whose only losses have come to Rousey and Amanda Nunes back in Strikeforce.

Only one I'm not totally against up top is Shogun Rua.. I guess Dan Henderson too considering everything.

Shogun's was justified. Judges screwed him in the first Machida fight.

Lastly, why do we still have this thread?

 

[BGDDYKWL]

Minakov is fighting Bigfoot in about 12 hours for those interested. It's on Fight Pass. They weighed in at 269 and 287. Apparently Bigfoot was granted a TRT exemption.

 

[Rocko604]

Minakov is fighting Bigfoot in about 12 hours for those interested. It's on Fight Pass. They weighed in at 269 and 287. Apparently Bigfoot was granted a TRT exemption.

Minakov rolled him. Brutal finish.

 

[BGDDYKWL]

Minakov rolled him. Brutal finish.

Bigfoot really needs to retire. The damage he's taken lately is unreal. He was swinging at air that entire fight. Sure would love to see Minakov in the UFC.

 

[kurt]

Is Bellator Chuck vs Tito going to be a real thing?

I'd definitely watch this. I don't have any interest seeing Chuck try to fight top fighters, but I'm all for a Tito fight.