Online Series: Shogun (D+ and FX Feb 2024)

[NyQuil]

Just completed Episode 2 I haven't been this excited watching a show in a while.

Lol at the bad guy from Fast and the Furious V being in episode 2.

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He’s also the bad guy from Clear and Present Danger.

“The machine is still on Moira!”

 

[Bounces R Way]

this show slaps

 

[Jack Straw]

Speaking of Game of Thrones, we saw what happened once the writers of that show ran out of source material to adapt and had to start writing the story, themselves. Maybe it's best that this series ends where the novel ends and they don't try to write a sequel that Clavell, himself, seemingly didn't feel was necessary.

If only Amazon had followed that advice with LotR.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

That's true. Again, it's meant more as a compliment. This feels like peak Game of Thrones minus dragons and a European medieval setting.

That was pretty much what Kojima said. His praise was what ultimately got me into the show.

The scale, details, cast, costumes, sets, props, and VFX are all top-notch, and it is no exaggeration to say that this is a "Game of Thrones" set in 17th century Japan.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

This show is phenomenal.

Also not to be a horndog but man the lead actress is absolutely stunning.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Can’t think of another show that hits the mark for me with every plot and character choice like Shogun does

It’s

Spoiler

as accurate as those cannons

 

[HanSolo]

That was pretty much what Kojima said. His praise was what ultimately got me into the show.

If it was bad we'd just get "I watched Shogun on TV"

 

[beowulf]

Curious if anyone watching Shogun has watched Blue Eyed Samurai on Netflix

 

[Jovavic]

Curious if anyone watching Shogun has watched Blue Eyed Samurai on Netflix

I watched it a month ago, I'm not a big anime guy but I enjoyed it. After watching that and now Shogun, I have an itch to play Ghost of Tsushima again lol

 

[LarKing]

Best episode yet imo. This one really drove home the cultural differences. Some amazing emotional scenes. Idk how this show just keeps getting better. I'm actually furious it's only going to be one season.

 

[Sad People]

Easily my favorite episode. Loved the entire dinner scene. This show is incredible.

 

[Tw1ster]

Best show on television right now.

On a side note, Cosmo Jarvis sounds exactly like Frasier Crane when he yells

 

[Dubi Doo]

Yeah. Another awesome episode. Keep that momentum going!

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Fuji my new favourite character and the actress is killing it! Expresses so much in body language and facial expressions.

 

[Sad People]

Question invovling a spoiler.

Anyone else think Marikos husband is a bit sus because he survived the attack in Osaka?

Fuji my new favourite character and the actress is killing it! Expresses so much in body language and facial expressions.

I still like Mariko but Toranagas secret samauri could be a good character here soon, atleast thats the impression i got during his scene where he was introduced

 

[NyQuil]

Best episode yet.

Capital performances from everyone.

 

[Osprey]

I just watched the latest episode and continue to love this show. I think that it's largely because, to paraphrase something that I read elsewhere, it hooks you with immersion, not spectacle, and respects your intelligence with limited exposition.

Question invovling a spoiler.

Anyone else think Marikos husband is a bit sus because he survived the attack in Osaka?

I had the same thought. He survived when he shouldn't have, returned to a wife that he resents, is putting up with living in the house of a "barbarian" and even apologized to him to keep staying there, despite detesting him. It could just be because it's what Toranaga wants, but it'd also make sense if he's a spy.

 

[HanSolo]

Outstanding episode.

 

[Knave]

Really good at the halfway point.

I think the actors playing Yabushige and Ochiba have a real stage presence style of acting of like James Spader and I enjoy that.

The actor playing Fuji has done a really good job with her emotive face as she tries to navigate her situation. She won me over in Episode 4 and continued that strong performance into Episode 5.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Love it whenever they do a closeup on Ishido and he’s so stressed and pissed off that his eye twitches. Relatable.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

This show continues to get better and better. The writing and acting are phenomenal. The Japanese actors portray such an incredible amount of emotion and layered meaning in their facial expressions. The pacing and development of all of the characters is engaging and makes for the perfect slow burning sequence of events. I love how Blackthorne's character is doing his best to assimilate to this wildly foreign culture while maintaining and upholding his own sense or morality.

I think the writers do an excellent job of diving into the tradition of dutiful service over individual autonomy, especially as it pertains to the women. Mariko and Fuji are both tragically imprisoned by their duties and have had to endure such loss and sadness while maintaining a strong facade and serving those they're duty-bound to.

 

[NyQuil]

I think the writers do an excellent job of diving into the tradition of dutiful service over individual autonomy, especially as it pertains to the women. Mariko and Fuji are both tragically imprisoned by their duties and have had to endure such loss and sadness while maintaining a strong facade and serving those they're duty-bound to.

Mariko does a good job of explaining how Blackthorne's self-centered freedom without responsibility or duty is similarly empty.

At this stage, his quest to open up the Japans is really more about satisfying his own need for adventure, acknowledgement and wealth though he seemingly tries to tell himself that it's about the conflict with the Catholics.

Meanwhile, he's never met one of his children.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Mariko does a good job of explaining how Blackthorne's self-centered freedom without responsibility or duty is similarly empty.

At this stage, his quest to open up the Japans is really more about satisfying his own need for adventure, acknowledgement and wealth though he seemingly tries to tell himself that it's about the conflict with the Catholics.

Meanwhile, he's never met one of his children.

Yes, I agree. It's a great juxtaposition of the two vastly different cultures and showing that they both have their own drawbacks and personal limitations.

That is a great point that you bring up about Blackthorne not having met his child, and at his own admission, he chose the life at sea over that relationship at this point. As far as I remember, he didn't seem to make the point that he was sacrificing to provide for them, but more so that he really just wanted to freedom of being at sea.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Question invovling a spoiler.

Anyone else think Marikos husband is a bit sus because he survived the attack in Osaka?

Spoiler: Episode 5 Spoiler

Yes absolutely was sus of Buntaro. I'm not buying that he fought his way out and practically everyone he was with died. His reluctance to tell the story of his "escape" strengthened that suspicion for me. He doesn't come off as honorable to me whatsoever.

 

[Sad People]

Spoiler: Episode 5 Spoiler

Yes absolutely was sus of Buntaro. I'm not buying that he fought his way out and practically everyone he was with died. His reluctance to tell the story of his "escape" strengthened that suspicion for me. He doesn't come off as honorable to me whatsoever.

Completely agreed after what he did to Mariko when he was drunk.