Sheldon Keefe - Potential Jack Adams Trophy Nominee?

[al secord]

I think he's the only candidate that can beat Trump.

 

[garyturner3]

Personally I don't think he's got a shot at it even if the Leafs continue this tear for the rest of the year. Coming into the season the Leafs had the 2nd best cup odds so them doing well should not be a surprise to anyone.

On an unrelated note, I find it very strange that Babcock still hasn't addressed the media after his firing.

 

[al secord]

i cheer for the team on the on ice unlike yourself who seem to follow the sport to only cheer for the GM

to each there own i always say

Good one, Randy.

 

[nsleaf]

I think it is because we have been waiting for so long that our mentality has twisted. If somebody remembers I want to know how was our fanbase in the 60-70-ies.

Internet speed was very slow back then, hard to say..................

 

[nsleaf]

2x18 wheelers?

36 wheeler

 

[Bluelines]

im pretty sure trotz's name is already written on the trophy for this year

Trotz, Cassidy, Reirden, Sullivan, Berube, Maurice, Bednar, Brind'Amour, Tochett, Keefe, Ward are all in the running, I think it really depends on which team catches fire in the 2nd half of the season.

Cassidy was running away with it until the B's hit that slide in December.

 

[Bluelines]

I don't think you reward a win streak with a Jack Adams award. A quick example.

Last year over the Christmas and New Year period, the team went 3-7-0 for a total of 6 points and Babcock was not fired.

This year, the team went 3-5-2 for 8 points in its last 10 and Babcock was fired.

In the next 15 games following last year's slump, the team's record was 10-3-2 for 22 points. Babcock changed virtually nothing. Slumps come and go. Players perform.

In the next 15 games this year following the slump, the team's record is 11-4 for 22 points. There's a healthy Marner and a stellar run of games by Freddy underneath it.

Talent performing and health largely determine success.

No you win it because its a popularity contest, which ever guy gets the best press wins the trophy. Most of those NHL awards are just popularity contest, only a few have metrics which you can measure and say yeah thsi guy is with a doubt the best at X.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Personally I don't think he's got a shot at it even if the Leafs continue this tear for the rest of the year. Coming into the season the Leafs had the 2nd best cup odds so them doing well should not be a surprise to anyone.

On an unrelated note, I find it very strange that Babcock still hasn't addressed the media after his firing.

Im not I feel like media will destroy him, who won last year? did St. Louis new coach win Jack Adams? if Leafs win a playoff series after the start they had I think u could argue he's in conversation for it.

 

[garyturner3]

Im not I feel like media will destroy him, who won last year? did St. Louis new coach win Jack Adams? if Leafs win a playoff series after the start they had I think u could argue he's in conversation for it.

Awards are voted on before the playoffs start. But either way, that's besides my point. I'm not saying Keefe isn't a good coach. My point is the Leafs are stacked are were expected to be a top 5 team in the league this year.

 

[Pookie]

Awards are voted on before the playoffs start. But either way, that's besides my point. I'm not saying Keefe isn't a good coach. My point is the Leafs are stacked are were expected to be a top 5 team in the league this year.

You sir are rational.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Awards are voted on before the playoffs start. But either way, that's besides my point. I'm not saying Keefe isn't a good coach. My point is the Leafs are stacked are were expected to be a top 5 team in the league this year.

Which honestly speaks more to how poorly Babcock did with this collection of talent.

 

[Pookie]

Which honestly speaks more to how poorly Babcock did with this collection of talent.

Not following.

His point was that this team is talented enough for a top 5 finish.

Last year they were 5th in the conference (7th in the league)

Year before 4th in the conference (7th in the league)

You say he did poorly with this collection of talent?

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Not following.

His point was that this team is talented enough for a top 5 finish.

Last year they were 5th in the conference (7th in the league)

Year before 4th in the conference (7th in the league)

You say he did poorly with this collection of talent?

The post I quoted referred to this year. Babcock did poorly with this years collection of talent.

Really not that hard to follow.

 

[Pookie]

The post I quoted referred to this year. Babcock did poorly with this years collection of talent.

Really not that hard to follow.

Did your collection of talent this year include injuries to Tavares, Dermott, Hyman and Marner?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Im not I feel like media will destroy him, who won last year? did St. Louis new coach win Jack Adams? if Leafs win a playoff series after the start they had I think u could argue he's in conversation for it.

I don't think playoffs count, it's just the regular season. To be in the conversation the Leafs probably need to win their division and win it not because everyone else faded away, but because they also finished high in the overall standings.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Did your collection of talent this year include injuries to Tavares, Dermott, Hyman and Marner?

Leafs are the only team that deals with injuries. Interesting theory.

 

[Pookie]

Leafs are the only team that deals with injuries. Interesting theory.

Words never said by me.

Key injuries do matter though.

 

[IPS]

I thought this was a Keefe only thread?

Wtf is this Babcock apologist nonsense? Don't we have another thread for that's being used for that?

 

[saffronleaf]

2x18 wheelers?

I'm referring to the two seasons in the Kessel era where the 18 wheeler fell off a cliff figuratively. We had hot starts and then fell into devastating record-breaking slumps and basically died.

 

[SprDaVE]

If they keep this pace (~112 points or whatever it is) and finish top 2 in the division, he will 100% be a finalist.

 

[Sniper99]

Surprised he hasnt been named Mayor of Toronto yet.

Way too early guys.

Make the playoffs, go deep in the playoffs and you might have a shot.

 

[SprDaVE]

Surprised he hasnt been named Mayor of Toronto yet.

Way too early guys.

Make the playoffs, go deep in the playoffs and you might have a shot.

These trophys are based on regular season and voted on before the playoffs.

 

[Sniper99]

These trophys are based on regular season and voted on before the playoffs.

Potentially sure. but theres a couple coaches i'd put ahead of him.

Berube is having another good year.
Arizona has improved a good chunk
Colorado is having a good year.

Lots of hockey left, Keefe has surprised me though and has been a good story.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Words never said by me.

Key injuries do matter though.

Hasn't mattered for Pittsburgh.

Hasn't mattered for Keefe so far either.

Injuries happen to every team. Good coaches/teams overcome that.

 

[34]

I would say so. He had this team do a complete 180 in the right direction.