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I don't know how Matthias scored 18 goals somewhere but if I hadn't seen him score a goal this year I'd think that was Carter Ashton.
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I don't know how Matthias scored 18 goals somewhere but if I hadn't seen him score a goal this year I'd think that was Carter Ashton.
Leaf Rocket
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He has skill but he has not put it up and hasn't lived up to the expectation. Ah well...Let's see what happens.
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Matthias is the kind of players that has to play with better players to elevate him game, as he will not generally elevate those around him.
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he's been the most disappointing of these bargain bin signings. Honestly forget he's on the team all the time. And he got the most money out of the bargain bin guys
Top line! Komorav is back to reality and Grabner well enough said. Some top line! Babcock has set up top line as defensive unit. You know like most teams third line.... Kadri has reasonable to good third line center numbers.
You know I think we are critical of individual stats and play but still it is a team game. JVR was scoring some goals when Bozak was going and Parenteau had a bit of a run. Both Bozac and Parenteau are now doing nothing so it is hard for third guy on that line to make anything happen. Komorav and Grabner surely have not helped Kadri's stats.
Like I said earlier in this thread when he was signed: a high end 4th liner.
His overpayment took advantage of an abnormally lucky shooting % last season. He's also been highly sheltered by Babcock -- his ZSO%Rel has gone from -1.2% (used in a fairly neutral/slightly more defensive role by VAN) to a massive 9.6%. Incidentally, his production rate (points/60min) is identical this year vs last at 1.4, which is where he's been practically every season he's played in the NHL.
His overpayment took advantage of an abnormally lucky shooting % last season. He's also been highly sheltered by Babcock -- his ZSO%Rel has gone from -1.2% (used in a fairly neutral/slightly more defensive role by VAN) to a massive 9.6%. Incidentally, his production rate (points/60min) is identical this year vs last at 1.4, which is where he's been practically every season he's played in the NHL.
Wasn't Carter Ashton only getting 2 minutes of ice time from Carlyle when he was up with the leafs though? I doubt even the most skilled goal scorers could have accomplished much with that ice time. He is listed as having 13 goals in 43 games this year in the khl for what its worth. The way I see it, Matthias won't be here for long, he is an overpaid place holder until the actual talent makes it way up from the farm.
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I actually don't mind the way that Matthias plays.
But he's a role player at best and this team is filled with them and that's a huge problem.
Because when you start relying on guys that should be playing on 3rd lines anywhere else in the league, you set yourself up for failure.
Matthias seems like he brings an effort every game and that's okay with me.
But he's a role player at best and this team is filled with them and that's a huge problem.
Because when you start relying on guys that should be playing on 3rd lines anywhere else in the league, you set yourself up for failure.
Matthias seems like he brings an effort every game and that's okay with me.
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I haven't seen him do anything useful in 48 games.
$2.3mil to be invisible man. At least hes better than Spaling.
$2.3mil to be invisible man. At least hes better than Spaling.
This.
Seems like the majority of people get caught up with numbers. Matthias has been snake bit, but he's been playing a good game, creating lots of chances for himself & others.
If any of the experts here took a look at his contract they might be able to understand his value to a playoff team looking for depth.
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I wonder if Bozak will be moved and if we will get the 2nd rounder? On the 2nd rounder, I hope so - about the best that I can say.
[NOTE - Not pointing at anyone here - just took a sample]
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Hes been very disappointing thus far. Also a very good example of the growing gap in cap hits between bargain basement and star players. Matthias makes the most of our bargain bin guys and hes arguably the worst of the bunch. We could easily have replaced him with a guy making 40% of what he makes. if you cant sign these guys to 1yr/1.5m or less then move on
I like Matthias. He has worked hard and has been one of the those such as Winnik, Komarov, Spaling, Parenteau that have helped to reset what it means to be a Leaf.
He is obviously not a top point scorer, but his attributes are a good compliment for a young re-building team.
He is obviously not a top point scorer, but his attributes are a good compliment for a young re-building team.
I don't think Komarov is comparable to Matthias or Spaling at all. He's been far better than both.
Grabner's probably the best overall player out of those "spot holder" types. Grabner is dependable defensively and good on the PK. His speed can still be an asset, although his scoring touch is almost non-existent now. PAP has some use because he can still score under the right circumstances. Matthias is merely a grinder-type with good size and strength. A team that wants to add some bottom six size may take him, but I wouldn't expect much in return. Spaling is just there mostly.
I'm thinking they may get:
A third or fourth rounder for Grabner.
A second (if he gets back to scoring/producing in the next month) or third for PAP
A fourth or fifth rounder for Matthias if they're lucky.
An Aki Berg autographed rookie card for Spaling.
Polak and Reimer (if they choose to trade him - and I would) should have more trade value.
Grabner's probably the best overall player out of those "spot holder" types. Grabner is dependable defensively and good on the PK. His speed can still be an asset, although his scoring touch is almost non-existent now. PAP has some use because he can still score under the right circumstances. Matthias is merely a grinder-type with good size and strength. A team that wants to add some bottom six size may take him, but I wouldn't expect much in return. Spaling is just there mostly.
I'm thinking they may get:
A third or fourth rounder for Grabner.
A second (if he gets back to scoring/producing in the next month) or third for PAP
A fourth or fifth rounder for Matthias if they're lucky.
An Aki Berg autographed rookie card for Spaling.
Polak and Reimer (if they choose to trade him - and I would) should have more trade value.
Ekblad
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Hey guys, just wanted to give you a heads up on Matthias... He had an unofficial nickname in florida, something like marchthias, due to him getting a crazy amount of goals and points in march every year. He would make highlight reel goals, crazy plays and just enough to justify his next contract all over again.
Im calling it, you'll love him when he does and will ask for him to be re-signed.
Im calling it, you'll love him when he does and will ask for him to be re-signed.
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