Confirmed with Link: Sharks close to re-signing Dillon -- UPD signs 5 year extension AAV $3.27m

[stator]

What did I state in our last Dillon contract, $2.75?

I'd go with that and a 3 year deal. I don't believe Dillon's performance warrants a solid top 4 defenseman rank in the NHL yet. With the Shark defense, yeah, but not by much.

Perhaps DW thinks Dillon will grow into one and the long term savings far eclipses the the difference of mine above.

 

[SactoShark]

I don't see this panning out well at all.

Hope I'm wrong and wish him the best.

 

[vilpertti]

I don't see this panning out well at all.

Hope I'm wrong and wish him the best.

What's the worst that can happen, Sharks have a third pairing d with cap hit of 3.some?

 

[SactoShark]

What's the worst that can happen, Sharks have a third pairing d with cap hit of 3.some?

For 5 years.

 

[magic school bus]

For 5 years.

*** That's pigeonholed into the top-4

 

[SactoShark]

*** That's pigeonholed into the top-4

That's where I have a problem. I don't see him lasting in the top four at all. And bottom pairing guys don't deserve five year terms. Especially at that rate.

Feels like our own Sbisa. I just don't like it.

 

[hohosaregood]

That's where I have a problem. I don't see him lasting in the top four at all. And bottom pairing guys don't deserve five year terms. Especially at that rate.

Feels like our own Sbisa. I just don't like it.

He's at a fairly low price and he's still young. If/when it's time to move on from him, it should be fairly easy to get a good value from him. He's also not nearly as useless as Sbisa.

 

[Kcoyote3]

This can either go really well or really badly.

On the one hand, we just signed a defenseman who had as many points as Scott Hannan while playing more ice time, with the worst +/- on our defense to a 15 million dollar contract over the next 5 years.

On the other hand, he's 24 I guess so that makes it okay?

I think he'll improve once our D solidifies but hopefully he seriously steps up his game.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Oh and his last 33 games:

0 goals, 1 assist, -5.

 

[magic school bus]

This can either go really well or really badly.

On the one hand, we just signed a defenseman who had as many points as Scott Hannan while playing more ice time, with the worst +/- on our defense to a 15 million dollar contract over the next 5 years.

On the other hand, he's 24 I guess so that makes it okay?

I think he'll improve once our D solidifies but hopefully he seriously steps up his game.

One of my problems is that people seem to think he played well last season, which implies he doesn't need to get any better for this contract to be worthwhile. I disagree.

If you can only get 9 pts in a season, I don't want you on my team. If you can only get 9 pts while being paired with Brent Burns, I -I just can't.

 

[vilpertti]

There's no no-trade clause so even if he don't work out it's not like he can't be moved out for a 7th rounder or something.

 

[Kcoyote3]

One of my problems is that people seem to think he played well last season, which implies he doesn't need to get any better for this contract to be worthwhile. I disagree.

If you can only get 9 pts in a season, I don't want you on my team. If you can only get 9 pts while being paired with Brent Burns, I -I just can't.

9 pts would be fine if he was a 4th line player playing 10 minutes a night, or a 6-7 D playing 12-15 minutes a night/60 games a season. But to pencil him into the top 4 with this much value for this long, he needs to double his production next year at minimum to make this worthwhile.

 

[CrazedZooChimp]

With the way teams throw money (and assets) at bad defenseman, this is a very reasonable deal, especially with the UFA years. Worst case DW could easily get solid picks and prospects from some team buying at a TDL in the future.

I mean, hell, Doug Murray got two 2nd round picks and Brad Stuart currently makes 3.6 million. This is a good deal.

 

[Alwalys]

Dillon's point totals may have been poor, but to my eye I didn't see too many negatives to his game. At least not glaring ones. Seemed promising one he gets used to the team and he is integrated better into the gameplan. The whole team was a bit of a dumpster fire last year.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Anyone who says Dillon hasn't "earned" this contract is ridiculous. You guys probably didn't pay any attention to Dillon in Dallas but I did and he played two full seasons on their top-pair. But yeah, let's judge him based upon 60 games with a bad new team, most of which was spent with either a rookie or playing on the wrong side or both. Sounds like a plan.

 

[Irbes Mask]

One of my problems is that people seem to think he played well last season, which implies he doesn't need to get any better for this contract to be worthwhile. I disagree.

That's pretty unsound logic. I mean, we sell hope to ourselves and each other every year on which guy will deliver salvation, but to say that because folk thought he did okay last year he doesn't need to get better is an erroneous implication. You pay for potential, not what you did. You pay for UFA years, too.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I honestly didn't watch that much of the Sharks last year, but this feels like too long of a contract.

 

[magic school bus]

And don't forget the money we retained on Demers to get him.

 

[LadyStanley]

And don't forget the money we retained on Demers to get him.

Just one year left.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

With the way teams throw money (and assets) at bad defenseman, this is a very reasonable deal, especially with the UFA years. Worst case DW could easily get solid picks and prospects from some team buying at a TDL in the future.

I mean, hell, Doug Murray got two 2nd round picks and Brad Stuart currently makes 3.6 million. This is a good deal.

You can get two 2nd round picks for Dillon? Why not go for that then!

Dillon had comparable stats to Stuart. Sounds like you are saying that was a bad deal too.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Anyone who says Dillon hasn't "earned" this contract is ridiculous. You guys probably didn't pay any attention to Dillon in Dallas but I did and he played two full seasons on their top-pair. But yeah, let's judge him based upon 60 games with a bad new team, most of which was spent with either a rookie or playing on the wrong side or both. Sounds like a plan.

Where did Dallas finish during those seasons?

 

[AgentCooper]

Where did Dallas finish during those seasons?

LA missed the playoffs. Doughty is such a bum.

 

[Timo Time]

You can get two 2nd round picks for Dillon? Why not go for that then!

Dillon had comparable stats to Stuart. Sounds like you are saying that was a bad deal too.

One is just not even remotely close to the other.

Where did Dallas finish during those seasons?

I didn't know Dallas was the Dallas Dillon's!

 

[AgentCooper]

Sorry, I misread.

Delete

 

[DG93]

Where did Dallas finish during those seasons?

There's a reason Dillon played on their top pair...their defense sucked. He is what he is...a good #4 defenseman. He got paid as such, and it's a good deal...his underlying stats are good, and using +/- and points to evaluate him is completely wrong since he isn't an offensive defenseman, and +/- is a joke of a stat.