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Hey Shane, it is proper to give credit to those who originate the idea. Here is Adam Gold at the 2012 MIT Sloan - Sports Analytics Conference.
Another issue I see with this is the scheduling for those bubble teams. If one team is eliminated with two games left and plays, say Toronto and Edmonton, then another team is eliminated two two games left and plays NYR and Washington, well that seems a bit off to me. And what is mathematically eliminated? Is it that the 8th ranked team has X more points than you and you have less than X/2 games left (ie if you won out you wouldn't make it?). Or does it consider that there are games in which either winner hurts a team's chance to make the playoffs, so they are technically eliminated sooner than that? It's just too confusing.
wouldnt that make tanking happen at the start of the year?
or do all the teams start accumulating points when any team is eliminated?
in which case you have 9th place gets 1st overall every year?
Simple solution, draft playoff.
Single games, each team plays each other once. Best record (1st OA) --> Worst record.
Makes their season go on a bit later so we don't have a bunch of lazy ass players playing golf. Maybe generate some revenue if there is enough garbage Canadian teams.
I don't think so. The appeal of making the playoffs is much greater than getting a first overall. The only time that may be an issue is in the middle of the year where a team's odds are very low, the management maybe would want to start accumulating points ASAP and blow a few games in the middle of the schedule, but that's better than at the end of the schedule.
The other option could be that the points only start accumulating after the first five teams have been eliminated as it usually gets pretty late in the year before that happens. Or they could make it based on percentages, but then it could get awkward as a team playing one game after eliminated could go with a 1.000 winning percentage.
Or take it a step further and basically give a team a ball for every point earned post-elimination and throw the balls into a machine and that is your new lottery. Tanking doesn't guarantee, nor does winning guarantee, but the odds improve if you play to win down the stretch.
Hey Shane, it is proper to give credit to those who originate the idea. Here is Adam Gold at the 2012 MIT Sloan - Sports Analytics Conference.
Shouldnt this be posted in the Leafs and last year Buffalo forum?
I'm sorry to say this pathetic team is not starting Sparks every night or trading away both their goalies.
They down right suck and thats getting confused with tanking.
Yup. And it is a stupid idea. It would just create a new form of tanking. Lose every game until you're mathematically eliminated, then make changes. You could get like a 10 game head start on other teams.
It isn't a great idea, as people said it will just start a different kind of tank. The only true way to get rid of a tank is to continue and make it less and less likely the last place team gets the top pick. If every team out of the playoffs had the same odds of getting the top pick no one would tank.
Sorry if anyone has posted this already, but I thought this was a great idea.
http://www2.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.aspx?Shane+Doan's+foolproof+solution+to+tanking&id=576818
It isn't a great idea, as people said it will just start a different kind of tank. The only true way to get rid of a tank is to continue and make it less and less likely the last place team gets the top pick. If every team out of the playoffs had the same odds of getting the top pick no one would tank.