If you look at the first paragraph the OP wrote, there's a razor thin difference between the two. I've always thought the Wings practically won the series after that Lidstrom goal went in. Everything started to go their way and against Vancouver. Yes, they still had to win that game and three others, but otherwise, you could argue a series is never won until the GWG is scored in the final game........or something like that.Have we leaked into "turning points" as opposed to a "series was won"...? Neely, Lidstrom on Cloutier, etc.?
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tbh i don’t count cloutier because the canucks were never going to win that series. other than old man linden and then-playoff virgins the sedins, no one on that team has ever in his life closed out a series without the other team contracting the bubonic plague.
unlike the 93 nordiques i don’t think this is hindsight speaking. i think the whole world knew it was only a matter of time before the 17 hall of famers on detroit had their way with the canucks. clouts, something of a showman, just happened to start off the festivities in spectacular fashion.
Hmm not sure about that. The Canucks were a red hot team going into the playoffs. They were five points behind the number 2 seed. A better start to the season and that's the second best team in the West, better than Colorado. When they were up 2-0, with games 3 and 4 at home, I think a lot of people were picking the Canucks to win the series.
yes, bertuzzi was the best player in the world from december to april, and that line was ridiculous. but at the end of the day, this was still a one line team with a goalie who'd never won a playoff game before against a team with two hall of famers on every line, two of the ten best defensemen ever, and hasek in net. that detroit team was the superteam to end all superteams and won the regular season by 15 points.
you might be right that there were people who were picking vancouver. but i didn't know any, and i don't see it myself.
Ron Francis' slapper from outside the zone that beat Richter in the 1992 Division Final? Rangers were up 4-2 in the game with 10 mins left, and 2-1 in the series. Pens end up taking the game in OT, win the next 2 games including a 5-1 spanking in game 6, before sweeping their way to a cup
Bryan Murray said:"Chris Phillips broke a (stick) blade and couldn't stay on, so Wade had to jump on in the middle of a rush and got caught flat-footed.
Up 2-0, I remember a lot of people in Vancouver picking the Canucks to win at that point. Yes, many of them were probably just cocky bandwagon homers but it wasn't too hard to fathom Vancouver winning at that point. The most likely scenario would be to split games 3 and 4 at home. That would put the Canucks up 3-1. The Red Wings would then have to reel off three wins in a row to win the series which would be no small feat. Down 2-0, I think there was also some talk about whether the Red Wings were going to be able to keep up their regular season success or if they would get tired as they had an aging core with multiple players who had participated in the Olympics as well. But once Cloutier let in that goal from center ice, I think everyone could see the Cinderella story ending.
Hmm not sure about that. The Canucks were a red hot team going into the playoffs. They were five points behind the number 2 seed. A better start to the season and that's the second best team in the West, better than Colorado. When they were up 2-0, with games 3 and 4 at home, I think a lot of people were picking the Canucks to win the series.
72/73 cup finals, game 7, Jaques Lemaire blasting a 60 footer past the home town Hawks goalie, Espo. I believe it was 2- 0 Hawks at that point.
tbh i don’t count cloutier because the canucks were never going to win that series. other than old man linden and then-playoff virgins the sedins, no one on that team has ever in his life closed out a series without the other team contracting the bubonic plague.
unlike the 93 nordiques i don’t think this is hindsight speaking. i think the whole world knew it was only a matter of time before the 17 hall of famers on detroit had their way with the canucks. clouts, something of a showman, just happened to start off the festivities in spectacular fashion.
I disagree with this. Nothing has happened until it does. At one time every decent team was full of players who were either green or 'hadn't gotten it done" in the playoffs.
Detroit had a team loaded with hall of famers, but that brings with it a lot of pressure. Pressure that compounds, the longer it goes without an outlet. That Cloutier trainwreck goal likely changed the course of Canucks history for the 3 or 4 years after.
If that doesn't go in, there's a great chance that we beat Detroit.
Cloutier letting in that goal in Game 3.