Confirmed Buy-Out Senators to waive and then buyout RW Bobby Ryan
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Maybe if the Leafs were willing to move on from players they would have won something in the "colour television era"
Because they did it the wrong way, all they had to do was go to him yesterday or the day before and let him know this was coming, they didn't do that, all indications are he was completely blindsided, that's garbage you don't do that.
cupcrazyman
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They'll probably still make it, but it will be close. A buyout still costs the Sens a 3.6M cap hit.
Assuming Brown, Tierney, and Duclair hit around 12m total, that leaves 10M for 10 roster spots. Shouldn't be an issue, but with so many guys making 800-900K, there is going to probably be at least 1 UFA signing for around 2M or some of of the RFAs are getting longer contracts,.
This is the same franchise that signed Marian Hossa to a contract extension and then blindsided him by trading him the same day.
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He would have felt blindsided if they told him yesterday or the day before too. The team informed him of their decision, I fail to see how it happening a day or two before matters. Perhaps you would approve if they sent him home, and told him to stay away?
At least if you do it yesterday or the day before he has some time to process it, this isn't how you treat people especially when you know they have drug and alcohol issues.
Melnyk is not worth anywhere near a billion dollars. He may be one of the poorest NHL owners
Most of his billionaire net worth is from years ago when he still held Biovail stock. It has since yanked and he sold it for cents in the dollar. I think the Sens are his only remaining asset
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uncleben
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Before the media and fans are badgering him? Not really.
To have answers and collected thoughts before family, friends, and teammates reach out? Not really.
This isn't trade deadline where decisions are made in the moment and then TSN accidentally calls up a player before the GM has had a chance to tell him.
It's been an extended off-season. Dorion had plenty of opportunity to discuss where the team was thinking of heading next season. Whether that's an exit interview at the start of the off-season, if they knew then, or pulling him aside yesterday or the day before and saying, "Hey, when the buyout window opens, this is where we're headed."
It's courtesy for a veteran in the league and on your team.
Perennial
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Poor guy?
He's made 60 million dollars living out his childhood dream of playing in the NHL...
I wish I had his bad luck...
I guarantee you he has hundreds of millions of dollars in other assets. nobody who is a sports owner has all their money tied up in the sports team and ONE stock
that's just asinine and that's not how these guys become billionaires. he has assets galore he either hides or won't declare or states as a loss for tax purposes. talk to anyone worth a significant amount of money, they know exactly how game the financial laws with ease
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Hope he'll find a spot as a top 9 wing with somebody at a bargain. With at least one of Daddy and Hoff likely gone, if not both, I'd be happy if Florida signed him.
What's with all the sympathy? Because he overcame addiction? I mean that's great obviously, but he was basically only a step up from Loui Erikson level.
Ryan is a f***ing shitty player taking salary. Ottawa and even Melnyk can do what they please. Dude has problems, OH NO.
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You think the news wouldn't have gotten out before today if he was informed before today? I'm sure the weeks of buyout/trade speculation that always precede a high profile buyout would not result in any badgering at all. If they would have known when they had exit interviews, I'm sure they would have told him then. They told Anderson they would not be offering him a contract at his exit interview. I wouldn't doubt a potential trade factored into the decision either.
I'm not sure management even know they were terminating him until recently. They probably had a lot of internal discussion about it as well as trade calls around the league. From what has been leaked out about past trades, Dorion isn't a GM to play things close. He does a lot of homework and calls. Dorion had a presser on the 23rd and there were indeed some hints that changes were coming.
I know people don't like press interviews because they don't really say much other than cliche statements, but you can tell a lot by reading between the lines. For instance, Dorion mentioned:
1. Exploring all the options. I know that sounds like something every GM does, but he could also have said fifty other non-statements like "We like our team" or "We are looking for a couple young guys to step up". If you're looking at options, you're looking at trades, signings, buyouts, etc.. You don't like your team as constructed and will be doing something.
2. He mentioned trade calls and having to make sense long-term. He could have said other things but he specified ling-term a bunch. If he didn't care about age, etc.. and was just interested in improving the team, he would have said something like "A lot of quality players available and finding the right fit, etc.." or "It is still a seller's market.." If he's repeatedly mentioning long-term, if you read between the lines you get "People are trying to offload veterans but we aren't looking at older guys because we're rebuilding so we're waiting for a younger guy to come available."
I mean, there is only so many options out there.
I know people don't like press interviews because they don't really say much other than cliche statements, but you can tell a lot by reading between the lines. For instance, Dorion mentioned:
1. Exploring all the options. I know that sounds like something every GM does, but he could also have said fifty other non-statements like "We like our team" or "We are looking for a couple young guys to step up". If you're looking at options, you're looking at trades, signings, buyouts, etc.. You don't like your team as constructed and will be doing something.
2. He mentioned trade calls and having to make sense long-term. He could have said other things but he specified ling-term a bunch. If he didn't care about age, etc.. and was just interested in improving the team, he would have said something like "A lot of quality players available and finding the right fit, etc.." or "It is still a seller's market.." If he's repeatedly mentioning long-term, if you read between the lines you get "People are trying to offload veterans but we aren't looking at older guys because we're rebuilding so we're waiting for a younger guy to come available."
I mean, there is only so many options out there.
To be fair, this is usually how buyouts work. Do other guys who have been bought out get 24-48 hours notice? Is this only an issue because of Ryan’s off ice issues? I see what you mean, and I guess it could have been handled better, but it happens.
exporta
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This new generation of hockey players do not drink like they used to. They drink protein shakes and play fortnite.
I don't know if other guys get 24-48 hours notice, I assume they get some notice but even if they don't this is a different situation
ManwithNoIdentity
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Pretty much this but I can sympathize
Still it’s not like he can’t afford to keep the lights on and it’s almost guaranteed someone will go after him
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