Prospect Info: Senators Prospect Talk Offseason 2016

[aragorn]

My recollection, a bit cloudy though, was that Lazar was the Center with McDavid at RW and "I Don't Know" on LW. (Thanks Abbot & Costello!)

Ahhh .... from the "Whose on First" discussion.

 

[Nosswor]

Nick Ritchie was the third player on McDavid and Lazar's line.

IIRC McDavid centred the line at even strength, whilst Lazar took faceoffs/centre ice on the powerplay.

 

[Lehner]

Nick Ritchie was the third player on McDavid and Lazar's line.

IIRC McDavid centred the line at even strength, whilst Lazar took faceoffs/centre ice on the powerplay.

For most of the tourny, but pretty sure Petan took that spot later on.

 

[TrueGrit]

For most of the tourny, but pretty sure Petan took that spot later on.

Correct, as was mentioned before, Ritchie did not last long on that line.

Domi - Reinhart - Duclair
Petan - McDavid - Lazar
Ritchie - Gauthier - Crouse

 

[Nosswor]

Correct, as was mentioned before, Ritchie did not last long on that line.

Domi - Reinhart - Duclair
Petan - McDavid - Lazar
Ritchie - Gauthier - Crouse

Why on the IIHF game sheets is it Ritchie then?

 

[TrueGrit]

Why on the IIHF game sheets is it Ritchie then?

No clue, maybe because they kept submitting the same roster every game and not altering it based on their lineups?

The big line of Crouse - Gauthier - Ritchie had tremendous success on the cycle, top two lines were scoring off the rush.

 

[Benjamin]

If Perron comes into September weighing 185lbs, how far off is he from the NHL?

 

[BondraTime]

If Perron comes into September weighing 185lbs, how far off is he from the NHL?

5 years, he'd be fat from gaining 20 pounds in 2 months

I'd say he gets a cup of coffee this year, and then pushes to make the team out of camp in 2017-18

 

[Benjamin]

5 years, he'd be fat from gaining 20 pounds in 2 months

I'd say he gets a cup of coffee this year, and then pushes to make the team out of camp in 2017-18

I assumed 165lbs was his draft weight.

Is he really 165 still!?

 

[BondraTime]

I assumed 165lbs was his draft weight.

Is he really 165 still!?

http://senators.nhl.com/v2/ext/PDFs/2016 Development Camp Media Guide_one_pager.pdf

 

[Micklebot]

http://senators.nhl.com/v2/ext/PDFs/2016 Development Camp Media Guide_one_pager.pdf

I just can't wrap my head around how he can be 6 feet tall, only weigh 165, and still be able to dominate his league (albeit a junior league).

Get that kid some protein powder stat.

 

[Sensinitis]

I've come up with a general rule that every height that is given to a player should be minus one inch.

Sometimes more, but usually you come up with the actual player height that way.

 

[Hutz]

I've come up with a general rule that every height that is given to a player should be minus one inch.

Sometimes more, but usually you come up with the actual player height that way.

Not sure if they do it today, but I remember reading back in the early 90s that at that time most published player heights included their skates.

 

[BondraTime]

Not sure if they do it today, but I remember reading back in the early 90s that at that time most published player heights included their skates.

They don't do that today, guys are measured at training camps/combines/interviews etc.

 

[Sensinitis]

Not sure if they do it today, but I remember reading back in the early 90s that at that time most published player heights included their skates.

They don't do that today, guys are measured at training camps/combines/interviews etc.

Nah, the skates add more than one inch.

Now it seems like they're always adding an inch or an inch and a half for some reason. Maybe it's because they're measure with their shoes on? Idk.

 

[MaxTheLimit]

I assumed 165lbs was his draft weight.

Is he really 165 still!?

Actually he was recently interviewed about this topic:
the link is HERE

In the interview he says his current weight is actually 163-162. One hundred 162 pounds at over 6 feet tall.

He explains that this is because he's had a long season and because of the strain of playing so much for so long, he's lost weight. He says he hopes to come into camp at 175lbs.

It is possible to pack on over 10 pounds of mostly muscle in a few months, but he is going to have to carefully track his diet and workout routine to manage his muscle mass and maintain his flexibility and endurance.

at 175lbs, that is still quite...slim for an NHl player. He doesn't rely on strength too much for his game, but he will have to work on that over the next couple years. Thankfully, he should have the help of an professional NHL organization to guide him properly.

 

[aragorn]

I've come up with a general rule that every height that is given to a player should be minus one inch.

Sometimes more, but usually you come up with the actual player height that way.

Agreed & weight. I've stood next to a lot of these players at development camps & around town at autograph events & there is no way they are the size mentioned in the material they hand out. Not always a huge difference for most but occasionally it can be. Perron looks to be about 5'10 or 11 & around 170 lbs give or take from what I saw of him walking through the Sensplex from one ice surface to another although he was on skates so it's harder to tell. He doesn't look 6' but it wouldn't surprise me if they have him listed at 6'.

 

[IamJust0ne]

Actually he was recently interviewed about this topic:
the link is HERE

In the interview he says his current weight is actually 163-162. One hundred 162 pounds at over 6 feet tall.

He explains that this is because he's had a long season and because of the strain of playing so much for so long, he's lost weight. He says he hopes to come into camp at 175lbs.

It is possible to pack on over 10 pounds of mostly muscle in a few months, but he is going to have to carefully track his diet and workout routine to manage his muscle mass and maintain his flexibility and endurance.

at 175lbs, that is still quite...slim for an NHl player. He doesn't rely on strength too much for his game, but he will have to work on that over the next couple years. Thankfully, he should have the help of an professional NHL organization to guide him properly.

Good find, thanks

 

[BondraTime]

Looks like I may have been wrong and they want Gagne in the Q as a 20. Strange to me, but it may help him out.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Well, it could also depend on the time of day the height measurements are given. The average person loses a bit of height over the course of the day, and gains a tiny bit of size in their feet. Add in the factor of a lot of guys skating a bit hunched over, and you may not get them at their tallest when seeing them after a practice or scrimmage.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Looks like I may have been wrong and they want Gagne in the Q as a 20. Strange to me, but it may help him out.

Where'd you see this?

 

[aragorn]

Well, it could also depend on the time of day the height measurements are given. The average person loses a bit of height over the course of the day, and gains a tiny bit of size in their feet. Add in the factor of a lot of guys skating a bit hunched over, and you may not get them at their tallest when seeing them after a practice or scrimmage.

I stood next to Mark Stone on the bus coming back to Kanata last night after the football game. He's definitely 6'3" but he looks much thinner in summer street clothes than his listing of 205 lbs. He was with a very attractive girl friend too. He must live in Ottawa yr round now.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

A lot of these players have freakish lower bodies with normal or undeveloped upper bodies which is why some hockey players might look smaller than they weigh.

 

[aragorn]

A lot of these players have freakish lower bodies with normal or undeveloped upper bodies which is why some hockey players might look smaller than they weigh.

I wouldn't say he looked freakish he just looked thinner than I thought he would be but at 6'3" he is only listed at 205 lbs so maybe it makes sense. Turris is another guy who is quite thin to see in street clothes while Lazar looks solid when I saw him in our grocery store. Pageau looked about 5'6" when I walked past him at the Sensplex in street clothes & Ceci also looks more solid & more like what you think he would look like. I have met Alfredsson a few times in street clothes too & he is solid as well with quite wide shoulders for a guy his size, maybe a little more on the freakish side. Wiercioch was another really thin guy.

 

[BondraTime]

Where'd you see this?

I heard from someone that he believes Gagne will be back in the Q, I can't really confirm/substantiate anything, probably shouldn't have even brought it up.

Still another month or so to sign him so I could be wrong.