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Do Make Say Think

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Lenny the Lynx said:
Goalies are just such a crapshoot.
I don't really care about O'Conner's stats last year, good or bad - it was his first year of pro hockey. Its still a win that we got him for free to beef up the prospect pool but its like having an extra lotto ticket
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Him finishing strong is all I really care about at this stage: it shows him finding his game and overcoming playing for an awful team.

He needs to do it again and not take so long to get to that level but progress taking place in his first pro year is almost ideal scenario (outside of him being outstanding right away).
 
Nac Mac Feegle

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Iirc, guys like Roy and Brodeur weren't exactly stars in the AHL, either. Same with Hammond. With goalies (especially at lower levels), it's best not to put much weight on stats. Focus on technique, mental preparedness, ability to put bad games/goals behind him, etc.
 
Sens of Anarchy

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Nac Mac Feegle said:
Iirc, guys like Roy and Brodeur weren't exactly stars in the AHL, either. Same with Hammond. With goalies (especially at lower levels), it's best not to put much weight on stats. Focus on technique, mental preparedness, ability to put bad games/goals behind him, etc.
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Roy after Junior was a backup in Sherbrooke for like 2 months at the end of the year after being sent down from the Habs He started in the playoffs went 10 and 3 and won the Calder Cup. He was with the Habs the next year. Maybe not the best example
 
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Sens of Anarchy said:
Roy after Junior was a backup in Sherbrooke for like 2 months at the end of the year after being sent down from the Habs He started in the playoffs went 10 and 3 and won the Calder Cup. He was with the Habs the next year. Maybe not the best example
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That and I wouldn't put Hammond in the same breath as Brodeur and Roy
 
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Sens of Anarchy said:
Roy after Junior was a backup in Sherbrooke for like 2 months at the end of the year after being sent down from the Habs He started in the playoffs went 10 and 3 and won the Calder Cup. He was with the Habs the next year. Maybe not the best example
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Quick started in the ECHL and had bad numbers, but turned it around in the AHL.
 

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Hutz said:
I thought we called them free wallets.
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I've always loved that line. What kind of person doesn't turn in a wallet if they find it.

Or maybe this means someone gives you an empty wallet. Like their old wallet they don't want anymore because they got a money clip. But that doesn't really make sense either
 
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Lenny the Lynx said:
I've always loved that line. What kind of person doesn't turn in a wallet if they find it.

Or maybe this means someone gives you an empty wallet. Like their old wallet they don't want anymore because they got a money clip. But that doesn't really make sense either
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I think it was Brian Burke who coined the term. I totally believe that he's the kind of guy that would keep the wallet.
 
Do Make Say Think

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It was a tempest in a rock glass

And yes, it looks like it's over unless our usual suspects start accusing Chabot of lying to protect management

Which is definitely conceivable
 
Nac Mac Feegle

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Looks like their plan is working. Those guys are elite athletes, you need to push them hard so they don't get complacent.

So, is the storm in the glass of water over with this?
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So.....you'll be ok with Torts or Keenan as our next head coach? :popcorn:
 
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Nac Mac Feegle said:
So.....you'll be ok with Torts or Keenan as our next head coach? :popcorn:
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I mean, it's not quite as black and white as that. Mike Keenan would have given a 10 minute expletive ridden tirade at the kid on the ice in full view of his teammates and media in which he questioned his worth as a person and his parents' judgment for bringing him into the world. Not sure anyone advocates the Keenan model anymore.
 
Nac Mac Feegle

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Hutz said:
I mean, it's not quite as black and white as that. Mike Keenan would have given a 10 minute expletive ridden tirade at the kid on the ice in full view of his teammates and media in which he questioned his worth as a person and his parents' judgment for bringing him into the world. Not sure anyone advocates the Keenan model anymore.
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It would be entertaining though.
 
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I mentioned in another thread that I got to chat with Murray today and we were talking about the Brassard trade and how they could deal Mika because of White and Brown. He was really excited about both guys and said he was hoping White would play with the Sens this year. Murray was pushing for it but he said Dorion was more inclined to return him to college. Dorion and White obviously won that debate. Bryan also said he was okay with it since he had the wrist injury and surgery and knew he was gonna be the #1C with BC. Murray definitely thought he could play this year though and specifically said he's a 2C in their eyes in the future but he totally surpassed their expectations last season in all ways.

Just a little tidbit that we might have a bit I'd a change in philosophy with our recent 1st rounders under Dorion vs Murray.

On a similar note, if you get the chance to meet Bryan and want to engage him in hockey talk, he's very down and super honest. Such a nice man and he doesn't take his privilege for granted. All around good guy and very grounded. Treats all my staff with a lot of respect.
 
Sens of Anarchy

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FolignoQuantumLeap said:
I mentioned in another thread that I got to chat with Murray today and we were talking about the Brassard trade and how they could deal Mika because of White and Brown. He was really excited about both guys and said he was hoping White would play with the Sens this year. Murray was pushing for it but he said Dorion was more inclined to return him to college. Dorion and White obviously won that debate. Bryan also said he was okay with it since he had the wrist injury and surgery and knew he was gonna be the #1C with BC. Murray definitely thought he could play this year though and specifically said he's a 2C in their eyes in the future but he totally surpassed their expectations last season in all ways.

Just a little tidbit that we might have a bit I'd a change in philosophy with our recent 1st rounders under Dorion vs Murray.

On a similar note, if you get the chance to meet Bryan and want to engage him in hockey talk, he's very down and super honest. Such a nice man and he doesn't take his privilege for granted. All around good guy and very grounded. Treats all my staff with a lot of respect.
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Cool. By change in philosophy do you mean how quickly we promote them?
No surprise on him being a down to earth valley lad.
 
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