The Vasili Jerry
Serenity now!
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GDT: SEASON FINALE: Canucks @ Blues, 1:00 p.m. PST
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You always know how to bring some quality Seinfeld material into a thread. Everything is better with more Seinfeld.
Megaterio Llamas
el rey del mambo
I'd have preferred to finesse a more favorable lottery position in the final weeks of the season, everything being equal.
Of course our luck is cursed in the damned lottery, but, still
Megaterio Llamas
el rey del mambo
The Vasili Jerry
Serenity now!
I'd have absolutely liked to have been higher in the draft too, but it's not like the Canucks are going to go from being last to a cup contender in a season. People are going to have to learn that as the team gradually gets better, they're going to be moving up in the standings. Can't have everything (although it seems that there are a lot of people on these boards that do).I'd have preferred to finesse a more favorable lottery position in the final weeks of the season, everything being equal.
Of course our luck is cursed in the damned lottery, but, still
krutovsdonut
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i’m honestly good if we are far enough back this year that trading up for hughes is not practical due to the quality of player required.
hughesx2 might not work. bure and mogilny didn’t work.
hughesx2 might not work. bure and mogilny didn’t work.
Hit the post
I have your gold medal Zippy!
It is weird how the Hamburgler didn’t get any Calder votes but did get some Vezina votes.
ProstheticConscience
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The only way this could have been a more Canucks end to the season was if Granlund or Schaller scored the game tying goal.
Let's see...what's better for the team...garbage time loser point or higher draft pick...I know! GARBAGE TIME LOSER POINT!! Just so bloody typical.
Let's see...what's better for the team...garbage time loser point or higher draft pick...I know! GARBAGE TIME LOSER POINT!! Just so bloody typical.
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it's far more likely that this team is drafting in no mans land for the next 5 years with Benning at the helm. How does anyone have any confidence given this regimes track record with pro scouting?
Look at how Tampa was built. Do you think Benning can pull off any of the moves needed to get to that level? Hell for all the credit he gets for drafting he hasn't yet found a Kucherov or Point type core player outside of the 1st round. That Tampa roster is full of players drafted (or signed as UDFA) outside of the 1st round. What do the canucks have right now? Gaudette/Stecher are decent and Demko could be a solid goalie but I don't see any of them being core pieces. If you want a contender you have to demand more than what Benning is providing. Way too many people seem all too happy be a middling bubble team for the next 5 years and that's what you can expect under Benning's leadership.
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Getting mad at hypotheticals..?..Atta boy..
krutovsdonut
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well we aren’t as good as the group that built the best team in nhl history with a multiyear head start on us so we must obviously suck.
if only benning had drafted hedman and stamkos when he had the chance.
geebaan
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Could have started with Tkachuk and Nylander but lets just conveniently forget about that part.
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TruGr1t
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Hah. Yeah, I'm sure that one goal "sealed the Calder." Pettersson is running away with the thing either way.
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Brock Boeser Laser Show
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I'm telling the truth based on 5 years of evidence. If you want to plug your ears and avoid reality go for it.
Enjoy the shitty free agent contracts on July 1st. I'm sure you will try to find a way to justify them in your mind.
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krutovsdonut
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getting kind of whooshy in here.
enjoy the off season folks. see you around lottery time.
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the Islanders , Flames and Hurricanes didn't;t draft Nylander either , why is that?
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Give the team credit for pushing right to the bitter end but there has to be disappointment that again these late season surges do nothing to provide any long term good for the team. We, and others, have a had these and they have zero effect in the future. But they do hurt in terms of chances of getting the major help this team needs. Might get lucky in the draft but its a damn site better not to depend on luck.
Know this is a controversy we seem to struggle thru each year in terms of tanking and it seems to come down to the type of perspective or gratification one is seeking. Can appreciate the Carpe Diem (live for the moment) sentiment but also recognize the need for delaying gratification in order to achieve long term success.
Good
Hughes - was excellent. Skating, passing and vision were superb. Guy is a player and even right now the best player on the team in terms of talent. Probable that, like Pettersson, the league wears him down next year but long term there is so much to work with here.
Demko - not always text book but was stopping the puck. Season has been broken up but there is promise here.
Pearson - another nice goal. Looks like a top 6 forward moving ahead. Does seem the Benning stumbled into something here.
Schenn - must be re-signed but difficulty becomes what term he is willing to accept. I fear any kind of long term deal.
Stecher - with Tanev out ends the season as our second best overall defense man. That rush in the third suggests he has more offensive upside than he is usually credited with. Big hope is that he comes in to his own next season
Beagle - that was a strong defensive effort by Beagle in this game. However someone needs to get him a decent set of gloves.
Not Good
Virtanen - a promising start to the season has been overturned by a very sketchy end. Again in this game seemed unfocused and, at times, lost. Effort in his own end was very poor and there were times when he seemed unprepared when the puck came to him. Often did not move to the puck but instead let the puck play him. Back on his heels and reactive rather than proactive. And this has been the story on this player for far too long. At this point, the Canucks have to consider a trade. Maybe he becomes something somewhere else but it is just as likely he remains a player with great wheels and no hockey IQ. One problem with our present draft position is that we are in the area where we likely get someone with a deficiency somewhere in his game - like Virtanen. You then hope that somehow this problem can be overcome.
Others
Rafferty - got tied up in his end too much but also showed some very positive signs. Thought his positioning was good and also his puck movement very good at times. Made a couple of good set ups (especially on the ones to Boeser) which showed good vision and anticipation.
Granlund - Granlund has made a late season push for a contract and may end up back here. Amount of game time he is getting suggests Canucks are kicking the tires still on this player. Not sure of what to think about this. Best scenario probably is that Granlund comes back, plays ok and the Canucks are able to get something for him. But you do worry about wasted cap space that might be critical to signing better players.
Gaudette - still has ways to go before establishing he is a bona vide NHL player. Think that he has been a disappointment overall and not sure he starts next year in Vancouver. Play in this game was repeat of the sort of nondescript play he has shown during last third of the season.
Spooner - always the flashes of superior speed and good passing. But never results in anything. Do wonder that, if he had been given the third line center role over Gaudette, whether he could have shown more. Don't think playing Gaudette was the wrong move but maybe playing Spooner there might have allowed Spooner to have better established a role on the team. As it is Spooner future with the the team remains cloudy.
Pettersson - nice to see him finish it off with a goal. Him running out of gas (or whatever happened - injury?) took away much chance of the Canucks actually making the playoffs.
Anyhow done for another year and hopefully we have a good off season and get some luck in the draft and in free agency. Don't trust Jimbo but we live in hope. At least we have some interesting players and situations to look forward to for next year.
Know this is a controversy we seem to struggle thru each year in terms of tanking and it seems to come down to the type of perspective or gratification one is seeking. Can appreciate the Carpe Diem (live for the moment) sentiment but also recognize the need for delaying gratification in order to achieve long term success.
Good
Hughes - was excellent. Skating, passing and vision were superb. Guy is a player and even right now the best player on the team in terms of talent. Probable that, like Pettersson, the league wears him down next year but long term there is so much to work with here.
Demko - not always text book but was stopping the puck. Season has been broken up but there is promise here.
Pearson - another nice goal. Looks like a top 6 forward moving ahead. Does seem the Benning stumbled into something here.
Schenn - must be re-signed but difficulty becomes what term he is willing to accept. I fear any kind of long term deal.
Stecher - with Tanev out ends the season as our second best overall defense man. That rush in the third suggests he has more offensive upside than he is usually credited with. Big hope is that he comes in to his own next season
Beagle - that was a strong defensive effort by Beagle in this game. However someone needs to get him a decent set of gloves.
Not Good
Virtanen - a promising start to the season has been overturned by a very sketchy end. Again in this game seemed unfocused and, at times, lost. Effort in his own end was very poor and there were times when he seemed unprepared when the puck came to him. Often did not move to the puck but instead let the puck play him. Back on his heels and reactive rather than proactive. And this has been the story on this player for far too long. At this point, the Canucks have to consider a trade. Maybe he becomes something somewhere else but it is just as likely he remains a player with great wheels and no hockey IQ. One problem with our present draft position is that we are in the area where we likely get someone with a deficiency somewhere in his game - like Virtanen. You then hope that somehow this problem can be overcome.
Others
Rafferty - got tied up in his end too much but also showed some very positive signs. Thought his positioning was good and also his puck movement very good at times. Made a couple of good set ups (especially on the ones to Boeser) which showed good vision and anticipation.
Granlund - Granlund has made a late season push for a contract and may end up back here. Amount of game time he is getting suggests Canucks are kicking the tires still on this player. Not sure of what to think about this. Best scenario probably is that Granlund comes back, plays ok and the Canucks are able to get something for him. But you do worry about wasted cap space that might be critical to signing better players.
Gaudette - still has ways to go before establishing he is a bona vide NHL player. Think that he has been a disappointment overall and not sure he starts next year in Vancouver. Play in this game was repeat of the sort of nondescript play he has shown during last third of the season.
Spooner - always the flashes of superior speed and good passing. But never results in anything. Do wonder that, if he had been given the third line center role over Gaudette, whether he could have shown more. Don't think playing Gaudette was the wrong move but maybe playing Spooner there might have allowed Spooner to have better established a role on the team. As it is Spooner future with the the team remains cloudy.
Pettersson - nice to see him finish it off with a goal. Him running out of gas (or whatever happened - injury?) took away much chance of the Canucks actually making the playoffs.
Anyhow done for another year and hopefully we have a good off season and get some luck in the draft and in free agency. Don't trust Jimbo but we live in hope. At least we have some interesting players and situations to look forward to for next year.
It's only a limited sample size, but Quinn Hughes will have more of an impact on this team going forward than Pettersson imo. He's an elite level skaer, with elite level vision from the back end.....something the Canucks have ever had in their 50-year history.
Canucks have some big off-season decisions on guys like Edler, Tanev and Sutter....have they played their last games? Based on Jimbo's radio interview, they're in the market for a top six winger and a blue chip blueliner either in free agency or trades. Oodles of cap space and an owner who probably isn't going to accept anything but the playoffs next season....buckle up for a big summer.
Canucks have some big off-season decisions on guys like Edler, Tanev and Sutter....have they played their last games? Based on Jimbo's radio interview, they're in the market for a top six winger and a blue chip blueliner either in free agency or trades. Oodles of cap space and an owner who probably isn't going to accept anything but the playoffs next season....buckle up for a big summer.
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