Confirmed with Link: Scott Hartnell Traded to CBJ For RJ Umberger and 2015 4th Round Pick

[GhostIsBae]

2 years later, I'm really not feeling this trade at all.

I bring this up with the speculation in main boards for hartnell possibly being dealt right now for a possible first rounder or a good prospect, while we are looking forward to buying out umberger at the end of the season.

This one goes down as a mistake by hextall here.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Thanks for giving me a heart attack.

 

[Alchemy]

The deal still had to be made. It was going to hinder the Flyers in the now but in the future this is where this move benefited the team when Umberger gets bought out, gets traded, or leaves as a FA.

 

[Rebels57]

2 years later, I'm really not feeling this trade at all.

I bring this up with the speculation in main boards for hartnell possibly being dealt right now for a possible first rounder or a good prospect, while we are looking forward to buying out umberger at the end of the season.

This one goes down as a mistake by hextall here.

No debating this.

 

[GhostIsBae]

The deal still had to be made. It was going to hinder the Flyers in the now but in the future this is where this move benefited the team when Umberger gets bought out, gets traded, or leaves as a FA.

I don't understand this thought process. They both make similar salary. Hartnell is a top-6 player and vastly superior.

Trading away a guy like Macdonald for Umberger (who was rumored to about to be bought out) makes sense like that, but not Hartnell who is a top-6 player.

 

[Striiker]

Gotta love this thread getting periodically bumped by people with short memories and little foresight.



It amazes me that people still don't get it.

 

[Freddy The Fog]

Screw what they could have gotten for Hartnell now. This was strictly a cap decision at the time and while it hurt it made perfect sense then. No one knew back then that Hextall was a wizard and he could unload Vinny and Pronger.

Stay the course and suck it up for one more year.

Then win me a cup!!!

 

[Prongo]

One thing that needs to be taken into consideration when talking this trade was Hartnell's NTC. He had to be convinced to go to Columbus. Which most likely means he wasn't going to many other teams. Columbus thought they were going to be an up and coming team as well. Hartnell might be more willing to waive his NTC with them because they are not a good team.

 

[Hurricane28]

Lol at people saying Fire Hextall in the beginning of this thread. Hexy is the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time

 

[GhostIsBae]

Hartnell only had 2 more goals while playing with Giroux and Voracek...

I'm not worried about losing his offense.

You can't possibly pretend to be a good judge of trades.

 

[Striiker]

You can't possibly pretend to be a good judge of trades.

Feel free to go back and read past pages of this thread where it's explained why this wasn't a bad trade.

I'm not walking yet another person through this.

 

[Striiker]

You can't possibly pretend to be a good judge of trades.

Oh, and that specific post was a comment on not being worried about losing Hartnells offense, not that I thought Umberger was some great player.

Fact is, it doesn't take much for a player to put up goals with Giroux and Voracek. Perfect example is how they made Raffl look like a goal scorer last year.

 

[GhostIsBae]

You can't possibly tell me that if Hartnell was an FA this season that he wont get a 3 yr 4.75m deal. There was no reason to trade him for negative value. Don't even try to defend this one.

We would have only had Hartnell for 2 more years than Umberger with the same salary.

 

[GhostIsBae]

Oh, and that specific post was a comment on not being worried about losing Hartnells offense, not that I thought Umberger was some great player.

Fact is, it doesn't take much for a player to put up goals with Giroux and Voracek. Perfect example is how they made Raffl look like a goal scorer last year.

You said that Umberger was going to replace Hartnell's offense without missing a beat.

 

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