Injury Report: Scheifele injury hyperventilation thread (UPD: out 6-8 weeks)

[Skidooboy]

HAHAHA

Questioning #55's Effort and Attitude?

wow. just wow. i can't even.

Completely divorced from reality.

make a comment about his execution if you must. there might be a touch of concern there,but it's most likely injury/fatigue, but to question his effort and attitude? wow.

 

[crackdown44]

Flames fan coming in piece, wondering if there are any updates on Scheifs status. Definitely not fantasy related.

Okay maybe fantasy related

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Flames fan coming in piece, wondering if there are any updates on Scheifs status. Definitely not fantasy related.

Okay maybe fantasy related

Nothing recently - Maurice did mention that he may return sooner than they thought, but didn't give any timelines.

 

[Halberdier]

Nothing recently - Maurice did mention that he may return sooner than they thought, but didn't give any timelines.

Original schedule was 6 to 8 weeks so that means he could return around 8th to 22nd of February.

"Sooner than expected" could then be even less than 6 weeks, but that might be as well about 6 weeks, which is substantially less than 8 weeks.

Maybe he could be back in only two weeks if everything goes right. I'm sure that they won't take any risks as it's not about Stanley Cup finals yet. Better safe than sorry. Jets are doing pretty OK without him anyway.

 

[Howard Chuck]

It makes me feel pretty good about the Jets, when I consider our #1 & #3 centers going down, a great chance to use some of our depth.

We've so far been able to ride out the injury and also been given an opportunity to see Roslovic, and to see what Wheeler can do at center, and Copp at center (again). It's really been great to see that we can ride something like this out.

But now I want everyone healthy again, thanks

 

[Jetsfan87]

I think with the way the team has continued to play well they take no chances with bringing Schef back early. I get he is a gym rat and workaholic but this season is about building for a playoff run. So keep him out until he is 100% let him be fresh towards the end of the season for the playoffs

 

[Aavco Cup]

Since his injury is a shoulder, he'll be able to maintain his conditioning somewhat so that unlike a LBI once he's cleared he should basically be ready to go. I also think they won't feel any pressure to rush him.

 

[10Ducky10]

Other teams are trying to decide which player to trade for at the TD and the Jets are getting Scheif!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Garbox]

Flames fan coming in piece, wondering if there are any updates on Scheifs status. Definitely not fantasy related.

Okay maybe fantasy related

It's good that you can be open with your fantasies. We... well at least I won't judge you

 

[TorJet]

Since his injury is a shoulder, he'll be able to maintain his conditioning somewhat so that unlike a LBI once he's cleared he should basically be ready to go. I also think they won't feel any pressure to rush him.

The central division is so tight that they may not rush him, but there will be some subtle urgency to get him back out there sooner rather than later.

 

[Aavco Cup]

The central division is so tight that they may not rush him, but there will be some subtle urgency to get him back out there sooner rather than later.

I think they'll wait til he's 100%

 

[TorJet]

I think they'll wait til he's 100%

I think he’s uber-competitive and will likely tell them he’s 100% when he’s 86%.

Which is what you want from a competitor. And the team, being in the thick of a knock-down battle for playoff seeding in the Central, will be incentivized to believe him.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I think he’s uber-competitive and will likely tell them he’s 100% when he’s 86%.

Which is what you want from a competitor. And the team, being in the thick of a knock-down battle for playoff seeding in the Central, will be incentivized to believe him.

It won't be up to Mark to decide. That's why they employ a medical staff.

 

[TorJet]

It won't be up to Mark to decide. That's why they employ a medical staff.

This is an insane hair splitting semantics based argument we’re having.

Regardless, if you think the player has zero input into his health status, particularly once the injury has physically healed and they’re waiting on strength return, conditioning, etc. you’ve never played sports.

The player has subjective knowledge about pain and his condition that medical staff cant duplicate with testing. Not to say that the basis of any decision won’t be testing, but it’s laughable to suggest the player’s subjective assessment of his condition won’t factor in at the margins.

 

[White Out 902]

Besides being great at hockey, doesn't anyone else appreciate how handsome he is too? Boy howdy. Lock up your daughters.

 

[Aavco Cup]

This is an insane hair splitting semantics based argument we’re having.

Regardless, if you think the player has zero input into his health status, particularly once the injury has physically healed and they’re waiting on strength return, conditioning, etc. you’ve never played sports.

The player has subjective knowledge about pain and his condition that medical staff cant duplicate with testing. Not to say that the basis of any decision won’t be testing, but it’s laughable to suggest the player’s subjective assessment of his condition won’t factor in at the margins.

I was only addressing the fact that some people suggested the Jets would feel pressure to rush him into the lineup early because the central is so competitive. I disagree completely with that. They will manage their asset properly.

And yes with the injury Mark has he won't have much say. The staff know exactly how he performed in the weight room prior to the injury and have a lot of experience dealing with shoulder injuries. It's not something Mark can fake.

 

[Yukon Joe]

And yes with the injury Mark has he won't have much say. The staff know exactly how he performed in the weight room prior to the injury and have a lot of experience dealing with shoulder injuries. It's not something Mark can fake.

A lot of the assessment of soft tissue injuries though is subjective, and has to deal with pain and discomfort. That certainly is something Mark can fake. It's not like a broken bone, where you can see via x-rays whether a bone is or is not broken.

 

[TorJet]

A lot of the assessment of soft tissue injuries though is subjective, and has to deal with pain and discomfort. That certainly is something Mark can fake. It's not like a broken bone, where you can see via x-rays whether a bone is or is not broken.

Precisely.

 

[Aavco Cup]

A lot of the assessment of soft tissue injuries though is subjective, and has to deal with pain and discomfort. That certainly is something Mark can fake. It's not like a broken bone, where you can see via x-rays whether a bone is or is not broken.

They have access to technology (MRI etc) and he will have to show he has returned to full strength in the weight room. How can he fake that?

 

[antiqueslivers]

there goes science rearing its ugly head again

 

[Yukon Joe]

They have access to technology (MRI etc) and he will have to show he has returned to full strength in the weight room. How can he fake that?

The trouble is we don't know the exact nature of the injury. My understanding is that while a torn ligament will be seen on an MRI, a stretched one for example will not. Just as an example.

And just because someone is lifting heavy weights doesn't mean they aren't still in pain - and perhaps even re-injuring themselves.

Look, I'm not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV. What I am going by is I used to do some personal injury law, and the frustrating thing for both sides in that area is that soft tissue injuries do not show up on any kind of scan or imaging, though they definitely do exist. So we were stuck having to rely on the self-reporting of people with obvious self-interests.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Do we know it's a soft tissue injury? I thought Dr. Twitter said it was a broken collarbone?

 

[Aavco Cup]

The trouble is we don't know the exact nature of the injury. My understanding is that while a torn ligament will be seen on an MRI, a stretched one for example will not. Just as an example.

And just because someone is lifting heavy weights doesn't mean they aren't still in pain - and perhaps even re-injuring themselves.

Look, I'm not a doctor, and I don't play one on TV. What I am going by is I used to do some personal injury law, and the frustrating thing for both sides in that area is that soft tissue injuries do not show up on any kind of scan or imaging, though they definitely do exist. So we were stuck having to rely on the self-reporting of people with obvious self-interests.

It could have even been a clavicle fracture that did not require surgery.

That being said..... back to my original thought. The Jets will not succumb to any pressure for Mark to return to the lineup until they are satisfied he's 100%

 

[Yukon Joe]

It could have even been a clavicle fracture that did not require surgery.

That being said..... back to my original thought. The Jets will not succumb to any pressure for Mark to return to the lineup until they are satisfied he's 100%

Yes entirely possible it's a fracture. Which would show up quite nicely on x-rays. That's pretty much what I'm hoping it is, because once it heals it should have no impact on Schiefele's ability to play the rest of the season.

 

[TorJet]

It could have even been a clavicle fracture that did not require surgery.

That being said..... back to my original thought. The Jets will not succumb to any pressure for Mark to return to the lineup until they are satisfied he's 100%

I enjoy how sure you are on this meaningless point.

Zero chance that 55 pushes to get into the lineup at 98% - only 100% is possible!