It was foolish for Tyler Weiss not to play for the Sting. He would have had much greater developmental opportunities in Sarnia and likely would have played considerable time on a line with Jordan Kyrou last year.
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It was foolish for Tyler Weiss not to play for the Sting. He would have had much greater developmental opportunities in Sarnia and likely would have played considerable time on a line with Jordan Kyrou last year.
I disagree about Langevin. The team is building its future around the 2001 draft class. Rees, Guy, Kammerer,McCombs and Hogue will likely all be key pieces moving ahead. Langevin played better in tier 2 junior A in Pickering last year than Coffin did in with the Legionaires. IMO Langevin definitely has the inside track on the backup job.
Also, Perreault is a lock to make the team.
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Very excited to see Rees this year, he was to weak last year, but showed speed, skill, and worked hard... he looks a lot heavier and stronger and I think he is going to have a big year... Kammerer too, I also think if Guy worked on his foot speed in the off season he will be a very good power forward, I hope hogue can be a power play specialist on the back end this year, not sold on him yet tho... I think Perrault will have a very good rookie season, he is a big strong 16 year old with lots of skill
I’m very confident with langevin, all though he is a smaller goalie, he played really well in tier 2 junior A and put up good save percentage and goals against average numbers for a team that sat in the middle of the standings, that’s very promising from a 16 year old goalie, and he played a lot of hockey, I think he will battle Hughes for starter, can’t see coffin making the team.
Does anybody know which draft picks have signed? Perreault has signed. Not sure about Dillingham-Morelli? I've said it before and I'll say it again. This team needs to start drafting kids that actually want to play for us. Once they are here we need to develop them better. Not having Weiss, Samuelsson, (Eliot coming late), etc... Has really hurt us. Rymsha and Calvas can be traded. We need to recoup a lot of picks that we have lost in the last few seasons.
I agree with Weiss and Samuelson, but I personally think Eliot worked out, we used an 11th round pick on him, most 11th round picks don’t play in the ohl, and even though he came late he is still a really good dman and if he is on our roster again next season he will be a huge part of the team next year, and Perrault could work out in our favour too another American kid and from what I read he should of went higher in the draft. These American kids are definitely risky, the knights don’t always land their guys, Brady tkachuk was drafted by them and never went even after his older bro won a mem cup with them. Unless they are 100 percent coming don’t take a chance on a player until after the 6th or 7th round. I think that’s what they did in this years draft, took a for sure American, then a bunch of Ontario kids and used late picks on highly skilled American kids who could come over later. I don’t mind that strategy at all.
How do you think Eliot worked out? He didn't even play the equivalent of a full OHL season with MSU. He didn't have more than 5 points in any of those seasons and always had a negative plus minus. In his very short time with the Sting he almost had as many points in the few regular season games he played and the playoffs compared to his 2 years with MSU. I can possibly understand him wanting to play for MSU if they were any good but they haven't been good in a long time. The Sting have needed defense for a long time and we could have used him. Are you high? We took Wyatt Schingoethe with our 4th pick who's committed to Notre Dame. Nolan Burke looks promising but he's only 15 and has a late birthday. The majority of our other picks are players currently playing in Ontario with a couple late American picks that are committed to NCAA.
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He was saying the Eliot pick in the 11th round worked out for Sarnia. Not that him picking MSU originally worked out for hte player...
The fact that Eliot is an 11th round pick and is likely to play next season for the Sting could be a real win for management. In that case you could definitely say that the pick has " worked out ". The percentage chance of an 11th rounder even playing a game in the league is really low. So far I would characterize the fact that Eliot has showed up and played in key playoff series as a win for management.
On the other hand picking Weiss in the first round was big mistake and Samuelsson in the fourth round doesn't look a whole lot better. Hopefully, moving forward the management have learned their lesson and will save their fliers for the late rounds. Those high picks are gold in this league, especially the first and second rounders. There is no excuse for drafting a first rounder who wont report. That's a killer especially for a small market team,
If you take a close look at the draft history of this team you will quickly realize the major mistakes they've made like drafting players that won't report, drafting American/Europeans, etc... There are also quite a few late round picks that have ended up on the team which truly shows the lack of depth this team has had for a while along with the poor development of players. The biggest example of that is Korostelev. He was one of the highest ranked prospects coming into the league and never quite developed into what he could have been and quite frankly still can be for CSKA. I think we could all agree his skill is there but the development wasn't?
Former Sting goalie Justin Fazio will join former Sting player Jaden Lindo at Queens University this season.
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How can you say Korostelev did not develop? Almost a point per game player. 287 games played, 272 points. To me that is a very successful OHL career. 1 player was drafted after him that had more career points and that was Mitch Marner. I think he was an excellent pick by the Sting in the 2013 Draft.
Yes, Weiss was a mistake, however, I can only believe that the Sting management thought there was a very good chance at getting him to report and that is why they didn't declare him defective. As for Samuelsson and Quinn, I have no problem with the Sting taking the chance at that spot. They aren't going to get every player to report, but the American's that are "committed to college" and end up reporting have been huge impacts for this team. Van Ryn, DeAngelo, Murphy, Boucher, Eliot ... Yes some were really late rounds, however all would have gone in the 1st rd (maybe not Eliot) of their OHL draft if they were for sure coming to the OHL.
Looking forward to the camp in a couple of weeks to see who is all reporting.
Best thing is seeing these kids use their education package and moving on in life .
It's not all just about points though. There has to be something we don't know in order for him to drop all the way to the 7th round. Leafs ended up dumping him, Montreal picked him up sent him to the AHL he played a few games and then got dumped by him. No other teams wanted him so he's now with CSKA on a try-out. You really see no problem with the Sting wasting a 4th round pick on somebody that would never commit? Anthony DeAngelo was a 2nd round pick. Hard to say what Murphy would have become for us as he was injured in the seasons he played for us. I agree with Boucher. Yes looking forward to camp as well especially the goalie situation.
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The Sting are drafting players to play in the OHL, not the NHL. Some players games work great in the OHL, but not in the NHL.
I have no problem with the Sting taking a chance on a guy that may or may not commit in the 3rd rd or later. Especially if they are a 1st rd talent. I'm sure the Sting think there may be a chance for them to come over or they wouldn't draft them. I personally think Nick has done a great job drafting since being the GM. You aren't going to hit a home run with every pick, but I like that he takes a risk.
Sting Site says Jeff Barratt (assistant coach) has left the team for a amateur coaching job with Boston Bruins.
A 4th round pick is way too high to take a flier on IMO. OHL teams are built primarily by players drafted in the first five rounds. Given the fact that the Sting have traded away all their second round picks, along with other high round picks for the next several years it would be really risky for them to be taking fliers now with high round picks.
They need to focus on getting high round picks back by trading the excess OAs and making low risk picks in the future with those high round picks.
I looked at the last 5 years. Of the US players they drafted that were originally unsure to commit, 11th round Mitch Eliot ended up being an excellent pick. However 5th round Boka, 9th round Stevens, 12th round Kunin, 9th round McPhee, 8th round Mckenna, 12th round Cassidy, 1st round Weiss, 4th round Samuelsson, 7th round McLane, 11th round Giles, 12th round Hutchison, 4th round Miller, 6th Round Nodler, 9th round McCarthy all have not reported. In addition to that they also used 6th round (Peski) 3rd round (Belisle), 3rd (Hughes), 7th (Kellenberger) on Canadians who have NCAA intent. Thats a record of 1 for 18 in getting uncommitted players to sign. You could ice a good team just with the players who they drafted the last 5 years who didn't commit. IMO good use of picks to take a shot in rounds 10-15, thats where they got Boucher and Murphy but there are a lot of top 5 round picks that became nothing for them not because they didn't draft a good player but because the player had no intent of coming. If youre going to draft 18 players who intend to play NCAA in 5 years they need to land more than one of them.
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i don't think it has anything to do with being a border city... it has to do with American ownership
Not true, The hunters from petrolia own the knights and a lot of their success comes from drafting American kids and bringing them to London. Although they do develop players really well, London is a bigger and nicer city and the arena is ALOT more attractive (very nhl like) which I personally think helps bring American prospects to their organization. I think the sting should use there top 5-7 picks on Ontario players (unless the American verbally commits before the draft) and after those rounds start taking chances on Americans committed to ncaa in hopes of changing their mind!
Would of been nice to see what letowski could of done with the talent the sting had on its roster this year. He’s a great coach, I wish Hatcher would of let him and Sinclair continue to do their thing when he bought the sting, I don’t think Hatcher is a good coach at all and I hope he steps down after his boy moves on from the ohl.
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interesting thought... how does Sarnia compare with other OHL teams with players in the NHL? We have a a few at best who make it and stay in the NHL compared with other clubs. I am sure someone has the time to dig that up.
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Also, from Hockey DB, this is the Sting all-time roster. The far right column will tell you how far they went. Any player with "Major League" played in the NHL. Click on the individual player name for their stats
Sarnia Sting all-time player list at hockeydb.com
I think Sinclair was very close to getting Quinn Hughes to report. Apparently he is close to that dad. Using a 3rd round pick on him is not a big deal for an American of that talent. Worth the gamble.
His brother went just before theydrafted Rees and if He would have made it to Sarnia in that draft I bet you would have had both Hughes brothers in Sarnia. Just my thought.
Taking risks on high end Americans can really pay off. Don’t fault him in the Hughes swing.
His brother went just before theydrafted Rees and if He would have made it to Sarnia in that draft I bet you would have had both Hughes brothers in Sarnia. Just my thought.
Taking risks on high end Americans can really pay off. Don’t fault him in the Hughes swing.
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