Value of: Sami Vatanen for comparable LHD or 2nd line LW/RW

[KingsOfCali25]

You need a new perspective. I’m not trying to keep Vats and I stated that already. If we want to become contenders again, we will need to really load up on futures and this next year’s draft will be that draft where we can finish the rebuild. It is one of the deepest drafts ever. Any first rounder or middle-second rounder can produce a top six/top pairing player. It may equal the 2003 draft.

Keeping players who won’t be around in two years is counter-productive, will produce a mediocre team at best and be wasting key years of Drew Doughty’s career. I’m trying to build a perennial contender, not barely miss the playoffs or barely make it to get whacked in the first round by Vegas.

No. I know what you ment. But it's a stupid premise. You want to doing something like they did with Pearson last season which turned into Hagelin and then a pick. Which is a waste of time when you can just trade Toffoli and Martinez or whoever else for draft picks later at the TDL after they hopefully bring their value back up.

And whomever wanted Vats when LA tries to trade him would be a later picks in the draft (like the Muzzin trade without the added prospects). Which really doesn't make since if Toffoli and whomever can bring their value back up and be traded for the same thing.

 

[Rhodes 81]

Devils give: Vatanen
Devils get: Vatanen, but playing on the left side.

It's not ideal, but it's better than any of the other options.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

While I'd like to get Vats. LA needs more scoring not less. So moving Toffoli (@ his lowest value) is a stupid move all

The idea is to have a puck moving dman that can move the puck to the forwards. Doughty is fantastic, but it's just him and Martinez.

Also a firm believer in having vet dmen that help the forwards develop by being competent in the defensive zone, while also help in advancing the play.

 

[Ruutu Tootoo]

That's not how facts work. You can't prove a negative.. onus is on you to find the link here.

The rule you're claiming exists doesn't exist. The proof is the CBA. The proof are the multiple trades that happen nearly EVERY year including multiple 1st round picks.

Amen.

 

[Mortal Wombat]

Find a link to prove otherwise

An old trade but the first I could find with a quick googling. Phil Kessel for 2010 1st, 2011 1st and 2010 2nd.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=4485942

 

[Unbiased Fan]

An old trade but the first I could find with a quick googling. Phil Kessel for 2010 1st, 2011 1st and 2010 2nd.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=4485942

Well I guess I’ve been proven wrong.

 

[Ruutu Tootoo]

An old trade but the first I could find with a quick googling. Phil Kessel for 2010 1st, 2011 1st and 2010 2nd.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=4485942

Also the trade with NYR/TB in 2017-18 season for MacDonagh traded a 2018 1st and a conditional 2019 2nd that became a 1st if TB won the Stanley Cup.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...trade-new-york-rangers-captain-ryan-mcdonough