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He is close to a point per game. Is he the real deal or is he just riding Skinner's / Eichel's coattails?
There is no way his next contract is less than 7.5.He is a quality top 6 forward who excels with elite players. Without that he is a 50-55 point guy. Guentzels new deal sets the benchmark for Sam. 6 mil max. Not paying 7+ mil for a forward who is not a 30+ goal guy or can drive their own line. Sam has never shown he can drive a successful top 6 line. He is a 4th or 5th best forward on a cup contender.
Last year was pretty good, too, after the slow start.I am pleasantly surprised at all the positive comments.
What changed (if anything) from last year?
He got linemates 20 games into the season instead of 40.I am pleasantly surprised at all the positive comments.
What changed (if anything) from last year?
If a player sees his points etc tick up any time he plays with Sam, wouldn't that mean he is a line driver?
If a player sees his points etc tick up any time he plays with Sam, wouldn't that mean he is a line driver?
If being a first line forward is not good enough from a 2nd overall pick someone needs to adjust their expectations.He’s a straw that stirs the drink on lines. No offense to any straws. Not every player needs to be fast to be effective. Not every player needs to have dipsy doodles to be effective. I can think of many players who had terrific careers without having those attributes. Once a naysayer can get over the fact Reinhart won’t be what they think a 2nd overall pick should be, they can appreciate the subtle and effective way he plays the game and highly effective most nights.
A 'line driver' has their production relatively stable regardless of linemates, i.e. Eichel. Yes, we want him to be 1.3 PPG with better linemates, but he's a PPG player even if you stapled Nolan to his hip.If a player sees his points etc tick up any time he plays with Sam, wouldn't that mean he is a line driver?
Reinhart is the victim of the eye test.
He isn't the explosive athlete that Eichel is.
He isn't an amazing skater like Skinner.
He is just quietly effective despite having no flashy skills that make eyeballs pop out of heads.
I suspect that he will continue to be underrated because he lacks sizzle.
A 'line driver' has their production relatively stable regardless of linemates, i.e. Eichel. Yes, we want him to be 1.3 PPG with better linemates, but he's a PPG player even if you stapled Nolan to his hip.
A complimentary player just amplifies each line they're on, but the mean of their production is still very dependent on who they play with. e.g. the excuses for Reinhart's pitiful production the first half of last season, centering a 3rd line, etc.
You want both, but if we're talking contract value, it's skewed towards the former type of player.
Reino is what he is. He's a difference maker, he plays well, but doesn't have the level of talent to impose his will on a game like Jack or Skinner can. The New Jersey game is a prime example: At times he did look dominant, but his stat line was no goals, no assists.
He's a smart, complementary piece that can be used to build a line. On this team (and most other teams) he's clearly a top 6 forward.
He is a quality top 6 forward who excels with elite players. Without that he is a 50-55 point guy. Guentzels new deal sets the benchmark for Sam. 6 mil max. Not paying 7+ mil for a forward who is not a 30+ goal guy or can drive their own line. Sam has never shown he can drive a successful top 6 line. He is a 4th or 5th best forward on a cup contender.
Eichel is ppg with Nolan at his hip?
Yet he wasn’t a ppg in any of his first three years and he always got to play with the best wingers we had, either Kane or Reinhart or both.
So, there’s that.