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[dogthateats]

Apparently we have had inquiries on DeSmith and Jarry according to this article.

 

[Corvidae]

The biggest issue right now is we can ONLY have 1 of Guds, JJ, and Maatta. The one I would have loved to keep is gone. Guds is worth it because he's right. If we get rid of JJ and now we only have 1 of the 3, then we are in a good spot. I'd rather go super cheap on defense and pick up rentals at best like we did in 17.

Agreed. I would have strongly prefer Maatta out of that group but his contract mixed with actually being tradeable for something of value made him the most likely candidate to go first. Hopefully they're down to just Guds by September so if he drops off they only have 1 anchor to deal with.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Apparently we have had inquiries on DeSmith and Jarry according to this article.

Our 21st and Jarry to move up in the draft

 

[Turin]

I’m finding it very difficult to slot the forwards right now, the elephant in the lineup being Kessel.

 

[Peat]

Cool cool on the goaltender enquiries, here's hoping Kessel blinks.

His quote about wanting to go up tempo gave me a shot of positive belief. But it won't last long.

Bringing this one over from the Maatta tribute thread -

But what does Rutherford need to do to restore your faith? Or is it permanently shot?

 

[TKalltheTime]

If we can move Hornqvist, I would have some interest in Simmonds. I prefer Anders Lee but he would obviously cost a lot more on the open market. But Simmonds would be interesting. His complete downward spiral in Nashville might keep his cap hit down enough to make sense.

Guentzel-Crosby-Kahun
McCann-Malkin-Simmonds
Simon-Bjugstad-Kessel

That's not terrible.

JESUS f***ING CHRIST... good lord

 

[Empoleon8771]

Apparently we have had inquiries on DeSmith and Jarry according to this article.

They better trade Jarry unless they're getting a 1st for DeSmith. It seems like a given that Jarry is being moved though, probably for a mid round pick at the draft.

 

[Riptide]

@audioslaved Kahun played a total of 5:25 on the PK last season. So while CHI isn't lying that he did play there... I'm not sure that's enough to really form much of an opinion as to whether he's actually all that good in that role.

 

[Giskard]

Why? The Penguins already have 8 defensemen on 1-way deals. The concern should be that they're going to keep Johnson.

More pushback?

 

[Andy99]

Most of our sentiments exactly...read this JR!

 

[ownal]

Horny has a full no move clause. He isn't going anywhere this year. He will bounce back. Did anyone watch Worlds? Yikes @ Simmonds. The guy sucks and was benched on the Preds. Young & fast acquisitions!

 

[ColePens]

Cool cool on the goaltender enquiries, here's hoping Kessel blinks.



Bringing this one over from the Maatta tribute thread -

But what does Rutherford need to do to restore your faith? Or is it permanently shot?

Very interesting question. It's nearing permanently shot. The history of JR has been like this. He can fix a team, as he has done in the past. He can equally break a team VERY quickly, as he's done in the past. We won the Cup with speed and like in what f***ing world would a Reaves/JJ pick up make any sense. He constantly tries to bring that in. It drives me nuts.

So yeah.. consistency with youth/speed would make me cautiously optimistic at best. Key word - cautious the entire time. But his infatuation with these bigger guys is laughable. I have more faith in him bringing in Lucic before getting back to square 1 with youth/speed.

So i will inevitably be cautious and right now i'm cautiously pessimistic.

 

[Riptide]

@ownal @pixiesfanyo

You can't OS someone until after July 1st. So the only pick we're missing is our 2020 2nd. You have a lot of options to OS someone without needing that pick.

 

[Peat]

Very interesting question. It's nearing permanently shot. The history of JR has been like this. He can fix a team, as he has done in the past. He can equally break a team VERY quickly, as he's done in the past. We won the Cup with speed and like in what ****ing world would a Reaves/JJ pick up make any sense. He constantly tries to bring that in. It drives me nuts.

So yeah.. consistency with youth/speed would make me cautiously optimistic at best. Key word - cautious the entire time. But his infatuation with these bigger guys is laughable. I have more faith in him bringing in Lucic before getting back to square 1 with youth/speed.

So i will inevitably be cautious and right now i'm cautiously pessimistic.

Well the good news is this is now a team to be fixed Just remember to promote him to glory the next time we win a cup!

For me, I need to see him follow through his words from this summer, and I need to see Johnson gone.

They better trade Jarry unless they're getting a 1st for DeSmith. It seems like a given that Jarry is being moved though, probably for a mid round pick at the draft.

I can't imagine DeSmith getting a 1st, but I can see him being valuable enough to get a biter on Johnson where Jarry mightn't...

 

[ownal]

@ownal @pixiesfanyo

You can't OS someone until after July 1st. So the only pick we're missing is our 2020 2nd. You have a lot of options to OS someone without needing that pick.

Thank you for the information. I did not know it is the following year.

 

[Andy99]

@ownal @pixiesfanyo

You can't OS someone until after July 1st. So the only pick we're missing is our 2020 2nd. You have a lot of options to OS someone without needing that pick.

Well, teams can negotiate offer sheets beginning June 26 but the player can’t actually sign it until July 1

How NHL offer sheets work and which players could sign one - Sportsnet.ca

 

[ownal]

If we fix the defensive, don't you think DeSmith will be even more valuable? He played really well with the worst D core in the nhl (okay exaggeration) and should play even better with a better D core.

 

[PensandCaps]

Cluster of viable bottom 6 Fs.

Wonder what we do with them.

Blueger
ZAR
Rust
Kahun
Simon
A. Johnson
Bjugstad

Even guys like
Di Pauli
Lafferty
Haggerty
Angello

Are probably NHL ready.

I think Simon or ZAR are traded or just waived

 

[Riptide]

No, teams can negotiate offer sheets beginning June 26 but the player can’t actually sign it until July 1

How NHL offer sheets work and which players could sign one - Sportsnet.ca

Same difference... you're still talking about 2020 picks and not 2019 picks.

 

[ownal]

Cluster of viable bottom 6 Fs.

Wonder what we do with them.

Blueger
ZAR
Rust
Kahun
Simon
A. Johnson
Bjugstad

Even guys like
Di Pauli
Lafferty
Haggerty
Angello

Are probably NHL ready.

I think Simon or ZAR are traded or just waived

Would Jarry/Zar/JJ/Pick be enough to get Martinez out of LA?

 

[PensandCaps]

Would Jarry/Zar/JJ/Pick be enough to get Martinez out of LA?

Would Jarry/Zar/JJ/Pick be enough to get Martinez out of LA?

No. Not with JJ in the deal

 

[Riptide]

@ColePens Most people wouldn't consider a 24 yr old making 925k "salary" when discussing taking back salary to move a player.

 

[ownal]

No. Not with JJ in the deal

Even with retaining .750 million?

 

[ColePens]

Well the good news is this is now a team to be fixed Just remember to promote him to glory the next time we win a cup!

For me, I need to see him follow through his words from this summer, and I need to see Johnson gone.



I can't imagine DeSmith getting a 1st, but I can see him being valuable enough to get a biter on Johnson where Jarry mightn't...

I will be so so so happy to say he's a God if they get 1 more.

 

[Andy99]

Cluster of viable bottom 6 Fs.

Wonder what we do with them.

Blueger
ZAR
Rust
Kahun
Simon
A. Johnson
Bjugstad

Even guys like
Di Pauli
Lafferty
Haggerty
Angello

Are probably NHL ready.

I think Simon or ZAR are traded or just waived

Doubtful...let’s say you’re JR and you think the problem with the team in part was players with two Cups getting fat and sassy and you want to move JJ and clear some cap space for FA signings. What do you do when looking at your list? Well, as Jules said yesterday, you’re probably going to try to send out Rust with JJ because you can’t get JJ outta here without a sweetener...not signing the young guys you like in ZAR and Simon (regardless of what we think of them) isn’t going to do much for you....

But let’s say you could send Rust and JJ to Ottawa (they need to reach a cap floor) for OTT’s third round pick (top of the round)...would you do it? Yes, it’s a lesser return for a good player in Rust but there’s the JJ anchor lessening his value...now you’ve got a solid pick in the draft and you’ve opened over $7 mil more in space...would you do that?