Salary Cap: Salary Cap + Roster building: "All of your Pittsburgh born players belong to us"

[Andy99]

Holland wanted JJ in Detroit.

Pls JJ to Edmonton.

Please don’t excite me too much...my hockey wet dream...

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

JJ to Edmonton

...

For Lucic.

 

[Son Goku]

JJ to Edmonton

...

For Lucic.

no u

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

no u

 

[BrookswasHere44]

I still won't believe Geno will be traded until it happens, but I do think JR, and even more worrying, Mario, is more than willing to move him. That sucks.

What makes you say this about Mario?

 

[BrookswasHere44]

What if Mario is also on board with Malkin getting moved?

What leads people to believe he is? I've been away for a few days

 

[Son Goku]

"Billy and I agree, Lucic will be a great veteran mentality in our lineup as well as creating some offensive flare, a true asset. Also, we've decided to give Zachary Trotman a two year one way contract worth $2.5 million per"

 

[BrookswasHere44]

JJ to Edmonton

...

For Lucic.

Without looking at cap friendly......ok. where do I sign

I looked. No deal

 

[Son Goku]

Without looking at cap friendly......ok. where do I sign

I looked. No deal

6 million is roughhhhhhhhhhhhhh yikes

 

[Andy99]

"Billy and I agree, Lucic will be a great veteran mentality in our lineup as well as creating some offensive flare, a true asset. Also, we've decided to give Zachary Trotman a two year one way contract worth $2.5 million per"

You forgot: “we think he’ll bring much needed push back in the lineup and make us harder to play against....”

 

[ownal]

When is Kunitz being signed to a 1 year 1 million dollar deal?

 

[KIRK]

Imagine after all this time they said Geno would NEVER stay in Pittsburgh behind Sid the entire time, that it would be some old crazy man that gets rid of him instead of 71 leaving.

I won't be surprised if Geno offers a list of teams to which he'll accept a trade (in fact, I may be more surprised if he doesn't).

The more interesting question for me is HOW he'll do it.

Option A: Make it easy on JR. Give him a list of teams. If he finds the deal he wants, voila. If not, then there's no obligation to make a move.

Option B: Provide JR a list of teams and then inform him that he'd better trade you by the end of the summer for whatever he can get, because you've played your last game for the Penguins as long as he and Sullivan are part of the organization and you'll opt to spend the year in Russia if you're not traded. This would prevent the Pens from allocating the cap space longer term, since you're saying only that you'll spend the year in Russia (and by implication could return the following year).

This is why I keep saying JR is playing with fire, because I don't see why option B isn't something Geno would consider strongly IF he decides he's open to a change.

 

[Son Goku]

Jamie Oleksiak for Bryan Rust e4

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

What makes you say this about Mario?

The fact that his GMs have always immediately and unequivocally ended the rumors and whispers in the past, whereas JR hasn't this spring. To the point of openly questioning Malkin's "off-ice maturity" and refusing to definitively quash the rumors.

A GM doesn't do that if his owner makes it clear that guy is off limits.

I think there's a lot more to Geno being open to a trade as well, but that's just an opinion.

 

[KIRK]

If JR even entertains the thought of asking Geno to waive, Mario must step in, apologize to Malkin and let HIM tell JR he is fired.

You ALWAYS lose when you trade away a franchise player. Always. Do not do it.

Kessel? Ok. Letang? Maybe. Malkin? Fireable offense.

I think he's already been asked. Whether it's definitively asked or more casually is a question, but when Geno says 'anything can happen', that doesn't sound like a guy who isn't at least potentially open to a change.

 

[Andy99]

When is Kunitz being signed to a 1 year 1 million dollar deal?

Right after Cullen re-signs and Orpik returns on a one-year deal...

 

[KIRK]

JJ to Edmonton

...

For Lucic.

#PushbackYaBigFrigginDummy

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Without looking at cap friendly......ok. where do I sign

I looked. No deal

Yeah, no way I'd do that. Lucic is a 20pt player who makes $6 million a year for the next four years.

I'd buy JJ out before trading him for Lucic 100 times out of 100.

 

[KIRK]

The Penguins brain trust . . .

 

[KIRK]

"Billy and I agree, Lucic will be a great veteran mentality in our lineup as well as creating some offensive flare, a true asset. Also, we've decided to give Zachary Trotman a two year one way contract worth $2.5 million per"

Oh stop making **** up . . .

Trotman isn't a pushback guy who can't move the puck.

 

[Son Goku]

Right after Cullen re-signs and Orpik returns on a one-year deal...

Imagine Orpik blasting Sid in the chops again and Vincent f***ing Trocheck is our top line center.

 

[Andy99]

I think he's already been asked. Whether it's definitively asked or more casually is a question, but when Geno says 'anything can happen', that doesn't sound like a guy who isn't at least potentially open to a change.

I think he’d ideally like to stay a Pen and have Sully depart...he may decide Sully won’t last past next year and take those odds...(I hope)

 

[heysmilinstrange]

This post can't be serious.


This board amazes me. I remember clearly trying to discuss the thought of trading some of our important vets after our last cup (the selling high theory) and I was arrogantly dismissed for being so clueless.

Not even 2 years later I see those same names talking about trading the likes of Letang, Geno, Horny, Maata......

I don't have a problem with trading anyone but you sure as hell aren't selling high now are you???

Guess I will always be the least informed poster here. I'll try to get better, I promise.

Wow, congratulations. Hey, if we wanted to really sell high, we should have traded our Crosby pick in 2005. Can you even imagine how much value we could have gotten? Sell high!

 

[PensPlz]

When is Kunitz being signed to a 1 year 1 million dollar deal?

To be fair, we haven't won a cup in this era without him....

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

For those that are putting a lot of fault on Sully's shoulders for not adjusting or playing to his roster's strengths, what would you have been happy with him doing?

Follow up; If you're firing Sully this summer, who are your potential replacements, what strengths do they bring as a coach, and how do you think they'll get more out of his roster than Sully?

I'm only half being snarky. I'm genuinely curious to hear the other side of the story, because I think putting Sully above a multitude of other issues facing this team is just bat-shit crazy.