Salary Cap: Salary Cap $81.5M

habsfan891

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those are my 1 main pieces too. Any of the 2 I would be really happy with Bergevin.
I just can'T see vegas dealing Theodore though.
They may not have a choice depending how low the cap ends up they might already be over it plus still have players to sign.
 

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Was an extra million really going to help the cap-strapped out that much?

Yes. When you have little space left and have to sign several players to fill out the 21, 22, or 23 man roster, it matters a lot. Lets say the Leafs run with a 21 man roster and plan on calling up players if they have injuries. Well if any of those injuries are short term and you can't put them on LTIR, how do you call up a player adding another $1M and fit in the cap?
 
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loudi94

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Gusev and Theodore are two players I'd like to target out of Vegas.

Not only does Vegas have very little cap space to work with, but between their NHL and AHL free agents (both RFA and UFA), they have 21 contracts up. Obviously they won't sign everyone. But that is a lot of contracts to have on your desk with so little room to work with.
Admittedly I'm not a big follower of Vegas but i wonder if they're a case of too much too soon. Perhaps they ought consider taking a step back instead of going for broke.
 

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Someone linked it in the post season rumor thread don't remember who but the tweet said that Montreal's priority was a backup goalie
Our priority should be a new GM, but that's another story.....................just can't see MB leaving salary dollars on the table this year, the team, the fans and the media will go bonkers if he doesn't get tight to the cap with some good additions.
 

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Not that I would be surprised... but can you provide links of those reports you "heard"?

Someone linked it in the post season rumor thread don't remember who but the tweet said that Montreal's priority was a backup goalie

I believe it was Renaud Lavoie who had reported that the Habs' top priority is a back-up goalie.
 
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Yes. When you have little space left and have to sign several players to fill out the 21, 22, or 23 man roster, it matters a lot. Lets say the Leafs run with a 21 man roster and plan on calling up players if they have injuries. Well if any of those injuries are short term and you can't put them on LTIR, how do you call up a player adding another $1M and fit in the cap?

Meh. Don't give Patty Marleau a contract back in 2017(?). $82 mil or $83 mil, they were already screwed.

I understand what you're putting out there.
 

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Meh. Don't give Patty Marleau a contract back in 2017(?). $82 mil or $83 mil, they were already screwed.

Obviously I understand what you're putting out there.

$1M less in space means they are screwed even more. It's not major but it affects the depth at the bottom of the line-up and likely forces them to run with a 21 man roster. If there are multiple short term injuries throughout the season, this will create major headaches.
 

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Our priority should be a new GM, but that's another story.....................just can't see MB leaving salary dollars on the table this year, the team, the fans and the media will go bonkers if he doesn't get tight to the cap with some good additions.

Bergevin is stubborn. I don't think he cares what the media and fans say if he decides not to spend the cap space cause he feels it's too much risk. Remember, he let Radulov go because of an extra $1M for 5 years. Has he changed on that stance? :dunno:

I think the issue is trying to calculate how everything fits in the next few seasons and what the cap growth will be. We also have several ELC's that will possibly get performance bonus and bite into our cap space. If our GM is not careful and our youth grows to reach potential sooner rather than later, we can get in to cap trouble very quickly
 

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Alright, Bergy. Work some magic and let’s get a top-six forward and a quality LHD. Nice advantage to have here.
 

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I don't believe his stance of penny pinching idiocy has changed no.

I think he will be very cautious about signing another Alzner contract. Honestly, I think he might use our cap space in making trades where we get a player with a 2-5 years in term and a fair AAV while we trade a value contract that helps the other team fit things in their cap. I think this is more probable vs signing a UFA but I can't predict the future.
 
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I think he will be very cautious about signing another Alzner contract. Honestly, I think he might use our cap space in making trades where we get a player with a 2-5 years in term and a fair AAV while we trade a value contract that helps the other team fit things in their cap. I think this is more probable vs signing a UFA but I can't predict the future.
I'd be perfectly alright if he takes advantage of his extra cap like that instead of ufa but he has to do it not just sit on it.
 

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I'd be perfectly alright if he takes advantage of his extra cap like that instead of ufa but he has to do it not just sit on it.

Easier said than done and I get the high level of expectation. If you were him and the options available to us didn't make sense, what are your ideas to ensure we use our cap space and not sit on it? Trade some of our prospects?
 

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Easier said than done and I get the high level of expectation. If you were him and the options available to us didn't make sense, what are your ideas to ensure we use our cap space and not sit on it? Trade some of our prospects?
There's almost zero chance that something doesn't make sense for our cap this summer if the cap is as low as they say it'll be there will be tons of young assests given up in cap dumps trades.
 

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There's almost zero chance that something doesn't make sense for our cap this summer if the cap is as low as they say it'll be there will be tons of young assests given up in cap dumps trades.

Fair... the way it's tracking, we will be getting phone calls from teams tight up against the cap.
 
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We all have been saying Bergevin should do something with the extra cap for the last 2 years and he was content to sit on his hands. Now I'm not saying he never reached out and other GMs refused to give something that was appetizing enough for him to pull the trigger, but there were no rumors of us looking to put that extra cap to use. I don't see a reason why he would be any different this year unless teams call on him trying to make a deal.
 

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With all the teams that much more pressed to shed bad contracts, so happy we locked down 2.4M$ in Weal & Thompson before first seeing how much we could leverage our cap space position to add valuable assets... :facepalm:
 

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Easier said than done and I get the high level of expectation. If you were him and the options available to us didn't make sense, what are your ideas to ensure we use our cap space and not sit on it? Trade some of our prospects?

If you can't use the cap space to acquire long term assets, you can still use it to help other teams get out of midterm toxic contracts in return of picks or prospects.

If you had listened to the other poster the other day about expiring cap space instead of always trying to be right, you would've understood this as he explicitly mentioned this. What he meant is that cap space from years past were wasted opportunities that do not come back. We can't accrue that cap space, we can't get those opportunities back.

Don't need to reply to me, I already know the drill; the most relevant part of my message will fly over your head and you'll argue to be right once again.

You're right, im wrong, no need to reply.
 
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I'd be perfectly alright if he takes advantage of his extra cap like that instead of ufa but he has to do it not just sit on it.

If Bergevin was running the Mayo Clinic he'd never look at specialists with a proven track record.

He'd for certain hire a whack of sketchy guys with pending malpractice suits. Drs Alzner and Shaw, for example.
 

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