Confirmed with Link: Sabres trade Jonas Johansson to Colorado for a 6th round pick in 2021

[Beerz]

6 pages for this trade? lol

Nice.

 

[Der Jaeger]

25 is still young for a goaltender. Most do not start getting much NHL time till this point, and the Sabres have done a very bad job bringing him along. I wish Jonas the best. I think he has more upside and hope he becomes a solid NHL goaltender.

Thats not remotely true.

Johansson’s development was handled just fine.

 

[OkimLom]

Johansson’s development was handled just fine.

Yep the only thing you can say they probably should’ve done differently is giving him a starters chance in the AHL, but even that you could say he didn’t earn it.

 

[Paxon]

6 pages for this trade? lol

Nice.

One for each round

... that is required to drink before talking Sabres

 

[joshjull]

Yes cause we are so f***ing good at drafting. Or have a cheap useful piece that might still have development left. Smart move by an actual NHL franchise to get at least a guy that can play for nothing. Jonas might not be a world beater but hes not the overexaggerated "trash" that the internet is so fond of using.

I agree with you that he could have some development left. But I think where he fits in the organization going forward is why they moved on from him.

JJ would most likely be our #4 or #5 goalie going into next season. He wouldn’t be one of our NHL goalies. UPL will be #3 and the starter in Rochester. Whether or not the organization wanted to pair UPL with a vet AHL goalie would determine where JJ fell in the pecking order. If they wanted to it would make JJ #5.

The pandemic shortened season really killed any chance for JJ to build on those strong 22 gms with the Amerks last year. It also allowed UPL to leapfrog over him in the pecking order. If this was a normal year JJ likely starts off as the Amerks #1 with UPL starting in Cincy. Then the season plays out and we see what we have with JJ and if he can build on those games.


I don’t know enough about the Avs goalie situation to know where he would fit in there going forward. @littletonhockeycoach probably does. I don’t think being a pending free agent will matter that much to a goalie like JJ who will be looking at opportunities. For example if he had a great shot at the #3 spot in the Avs organization that would be a good fit for him.

EDIT: Plus the obvious benefit of working on his game playing behind a far better team. It would take a ton of pressure of him.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Watch now Johansson becoming legit backup. Would be so Buffalo

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Watch now Johansson becoming legit backup. Would be so Buffalo

Nah. He’ll pull a Lehner and become a Vezina candidate and win the Jennings.

 

[Buffaloed]

New backup goalie Jonas Johansson joins Avalanche for road trip to Arizona
Jonas Johansson:
“It’s been an intense 24 hours for me, with the travel and getting everything together. The main feeling is just, I’m really pumped up, really excited about coming here and being with this organization. I try to look at the future here and what’s been happening has been happening. I think there’s only good things to come from this. I try not to look back too much. I’m thankful for my time in Buffalo but I’m excited to start new things here. The only thing I can focus on is giving the team the chance. That’s what I’ve been doing and what I’m going to keep doing.”

He'll probably start Monday or Tuesday when the AVs play back to back games with the Coyotes. He's a significant upgrade over Miska. Colorado has scored 23 goals in their last 4 games. It take a lot of the pressure off a goalie when he doesn't feel he has to be perfect to win.

 

[RecycledEichel]

Johansson traded to Avalanche from Sabres

"I'm really pumped up, really excited about coming here and being with this good organization"

Was he not excited to be with our organization?

 

[21]

Who the f**k is this guy?

Making himself looking incredibly stupid, embarrassing.

"He doesn't stop pucks in practice or games."

Really, what the f**k is this, bullying? Working for The Athletics, really, hopefully not for much longer.

 

[Butt Ox]

"He doesn't stop pucks in practice or games."

Vogl is usually a straight shooter. Not sure if he's counting shootouts as part of the game here or missed the opportunity to drag JJ's post-game performances.

 

[Zman5778]

Who the f**k is this guy?

Making himself looking incredibly stupid, embarrassing.

"He doesn't stop pucks in practice or games."

Really, what the f**k is this, bullying? Working for The Athletics, really, hopefully not for much longer.

Vogl's usually a pretty straight shooter. Doesn't kowtow to the Pegulas but is usually very fair all around.

If Vogl says JJ doesn't stop pucks in practice, I believe him. He's not one to stir up drama like some of our other crack local media "mavens"

 

[Buffaloed]

Watch now Johansson becoming legit backup. Would be so Buffalo

He's a legit backup playing in front of an illegitimate team. Play some D in front of him and score some goals, and he'll be fine.

 

[Buffaloed]

Vogl's usually a pretty straight shooter. Doesn't kowtow to the Pegulas but is usually very fair all around.

If Vogl says JJ doesn't stop pucks in practice, I believe him. He's not one to stir up drama like some of our other crack local media "mavens"

Vogl is just trying to be funny. JJ has a .884 SA so obviously he stops pucks in games. That's better than Thomas Greiss, Ryan Miller, Carter Hart, and Matt Murray.

 

[OkimLom]

Who the f**k is this guy?

Making himself looking incredibly stupid, embarrassing.

"He doesn't stop pucks in practice or games."

Really, what the f**k is this, bullying? Working for The Athletics, really, hopefully not for much longer.

Buffalo media journalist that provides much in the way of opinions and little in the way of news.

I’m pretty bias against him, as he carried hard the narrative of ROR being a bad influence in the room for the Pegulas during that fiasco, but I find his writing to be very condescending.

He’s an annoying gnat that exists from your typical Buffalo sports media member.

You’d probably find better opinions on these boards than anything from any journalists.

 

[Dex]

Yep the only thing you can say they probably should’ve done differently is giving him a starters chance in the AHL, but even that you could say he didn’t earn it.

I mentioned it upthread, but despite not having the opportunity to be the starter in Rochester, he did make the All Star Game last season.

Overall, I think Buffalo did right by him developmentally except as mentioned relative to being " the starter in Rochester". I think Cal Peterson not having signed sort of threw what you expect to be the normal course of development a curve ball. In the normal course of events, I think you'd expect Peterson to be the guy on whom Buffalo would be leaning right now - but he's elsewhere. The Covid pandemic did not help , to be sure. but the Sabres do have UPL and Portillo on the horizon. I will be curious to see how he plays once out of the Sabres' maelstrom of dysfunctionality.

 

[OkimLom]

I mentioned it upthread, but despite not having the opportunity to be the starter in Rochester, he did make the All Star Game last season.

Overall, I thing Buffalo did right by him developmentally except as mentioned relative to being " the starter in Rochester. I think Cal Peterson not having signed sort of threw what you expect to be the normal course of development a curve ball. In the normal course of events, I think you expect Peterson to be the guy on whom Buffalo would be leaning right now - but he's elsewhere. The Covid pandemic did not help , to be sure. but the Sabres do have UPL and Portillo on the horizon. I will be curios to see how he plays once out of the Sabres' maelstrom of dysfunctionality.

He had good statistics for sure. But the next step in his development should’ve been to play starter workload. But it’s not like he locked down the starter role down there despite the all-Star selection.

Will be interesting to see how long he lasts in Colorado’s system and pipeline.

 

[joshjull]

 

[Butt Ox]

Will be interesting to see how long he lasts in Colorado’s system and pipeline.

concur. good luck to ya, Jonas.

 

[Chainshot]

*yawn*

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

He's a significant upgrade over Miska.

You got that right! Miska was at best an ECHL level goalie. Francouz is the backup but he's still out. JJ is the 3rd goaltender who can be a decent back up behind a solid D composed of..... Toews (#1!), Makar, Girard, Bowen, Graves, McDonald .... with Timmons on IR.

Seriously, there are really no holes in this D when everyone is healthy and JJ's level of play works for the Avs.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

I agree with you that he could have some development left. But I think where he fits in the organization going forward is why they moved on from him.

JJ would most likely be our #4 or #5 goalie going into next season. He wouldn’t be one of our NHL goalies. UPL will be #3 and the starter in Rochester. Whether or not the organization wanted to pair UPL with a vet AHL goalie would determine where JJ fell in the pecking order. If they wanted to it would make JJ #5.

The pandemic shortened season really killed any chance for JJ to build on those strong 22 gms with the Amerks last year. It also allowed UPL to leapfrog over him in the pecking order. If this was a normal year JJ likely starts off as the Amerks #1 with UPL starting in Cincy. Then the season plays out and we see what we have with JJ and if he can build on those games.


I don’t know enough about the Avs goalie situation to know where he would fit in there going forward. @littletonhockeycoach probably does. I don’t think being a pending free agent will matter that much to a goalie like JJ who will be looking at opportunities. For example if he had a great shot at the #3 spot in the Avs organization that would be a good fit for him.

EDIT: Plus the obvious benefit of working on his game playing behind a far better team. It would take a ton of pressure of him.

See above post reply to Buffaloed........

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

He had good statistics for sure. But the next step in his development should’ve been to play starter workload. But it’s not like he locked down the starter role down there despite the all-Star selection.

Will be interesting to see how long he lasts in Colorado’s system and pipeline.

Watched a bunch of Petersen lately. He's pretty darn good. Wish the Sabres could have signed him but whoever was advising him to avoid signing with a shitshow was pretty much on target. Still a significant loss for the Sabres.

He finally cracked under the relentless pressure of the Av's shooting derby late in the 1st recent game vs Kings. NO GOALIE should be expected to put up with that many shots!

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Watched a bunch of Petersen lately. He's pretty darn good. Wish the Sabres could have signed him but whoever was advising him to avoid signing with a shitshow was pretty much on target. Still a significant loss for the Sabres.

He finally cracked under the relentless pressure of the Av's shooting derby late in the 1st recent game vs Kings. NO GOALIE should be expected to put up with that many shots!

No one talks about that guy. Total mismanagement. Again. You had to have him signed after year one because it's Buffalo. Year 2 was last chance and by then you needed to wow him with big contract and maybe agree to burn a year of first contract with games in NHL. It was 2015-2016, it could have been done. They waited and waited and, guess what, no desire to play in Buffalo once he had a choice.

You want to draft college guys, you almost have to have them signed after year 1 if you are Sabres.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

No one talks about that guy. Total mismanagement. Again. You had to have him signed after year one because it's Buffalo. Year 2 was last chance and by then you needed to wow him with big contract and maybe agree to burn a year of first contract with games in NHL. It was 2015-2016, it could have been done. They waited and waited and, guess what, no desire to play in Buffalo once he had a choice.

You want to draft college guys, you almost have to have them signed after year 1 if you are Sabres.

I think that's a pretty unfair take.