so an 11/12D for a 16/17F, both have been passed by within their organizations, worth a flyer. Good luck to Nic, good kid.
That's a great infographic Moskau. It's pretty clearly a systemic problem that needs to be addressed badly if we ever want to turn into Tampa Bay or Nashville.
We just don't hit on draft picks outside of the first 2 rounds.
Oh boy, that thread.https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/your-top-30-sabres-2014-draft-board.1692247/
22 Jack Dougherty D (HS-MN) R 6' 1" 185
Note: Size is alright, but the key here is first pass. He has a good one. The one of unheralded strengths of the Chicago defense is the first pass.
Yeah, I wasn't as good of a note taker back in 2014.
Edit: Also, called Ehlers. (Flopped on Dal Colle)
very true. I had some hope as a 2/3 line tweener. Has the speed, has the shot, but something never clicked.Baptiste was given plenty of time and opportunities to make this team. As bad as we have been over the last 5 years. Even when we were tanking for McDavid or Eichel.
He just never ceased the moment.
It only makes sense to claim a player if you're going to keep him in the NHL. If you waive him for demotion to the AHL, his original team can just snatch him back. No team wanted to put either player right on their NHL squad.I always liked Baptiste and hoped he would put it all together. This seems like a good change of scenery trade for both players and teams and a fair deal. I assume Housley must like this kid.
I'm still confused about players passing through waivers unclaimed and then getting traded right away (Baptiste, Carrick, etc.) Anyone get this?
It only makes sense to claim a player if you're going to keep him in the NHL. If you waive him for demotion to the AHL, his original team can just snatch him back. No team wanted to put either player right on their NHL squad.
Dougherty never progressed and got passed by younger D prospects like Girard, Carrier and Allard. He was never going to get a shot here. Good change of scenery trade but I doubt he ever sees NHL ice
Fourth line NHL scoring type/top six AHLer with good straight-line speed and decent hands. The organization kept him in the AHL over the past few seasons for the sake of development, viewing him as a top-six-or-bust-project, so he hasn't really had the opportunity to play depth roles despite being physically ready (and the team having absolutely dire scoring depth). If your team has that definitely terrible player your coach still plays, he's probably an upgrade.Hello from Nashville. This sounds like a shake up trade for both players. Dougherty has never really grabbed any attention and has just been a 'meh' prospect to date. He could certainly be a late bloomer but I think overall he had been passed up by a fair amount of lower/more recent draft picks. Obviously your staff know him very well and thought he was worth getting in for a change of scenery.
What are we getting?
I'm not really sure how this depth shuffle - which, mind you, is even befuddling the guy who was pro sending Guhle/Pilut down for a spell - addresses Casey Nelson starting the season.Ahh but Carrick!!! How could Botts miss out on him?!?
It’s a very bad deal for the Amerks on paper. Unless they’re going to flip another veteran on defense for a forward, this makes the Amerks worse. Not a good deal.It's a bad deal for Amerks fans. Baptiste was productive. I thought Botterill wanted a winner in the AHL.
Have you seen the Amerks depth on defense? They don’t need defensemen. They have way too many as it is. This makes no sense unless they trade another defenseman for a forward.How come?
Not sure what Nashville's contract situation is, but there's a 50-contract organizational limit. Sometimes you have to move a contract out in order to be able to move a contract in.I'm still confused about players passing through waivers unclaimed and then getting traded right away (Baptiste, Carrick, etc.) Anyone get this?
That's a great infographic Moskau. It's pretty clearly a systemic problem that needs to be addressed badly if we ever want to turn into Tampa Bay or Nashville.
We just don't hit on draft picks outside of the first 2 rounds.
Despite the fact that he might get traded, real estate is still a good investment. Never too early to start thinking about life after hockey.Given the trades of Baptiste and Fasching, I'm not sure that Justin Bailey should be purchasing real estate in WNY.
Yeah, sometimes a trade is also about trying to give a guy an opportunity to advance his career, too.He wasn't cracking the Sabres lineup, so it would have been a disservice to both him and the organization to keep him buried I'm Rochester. It was time to move on.
Implying we've hit on any of our 2nd round draft picks... I'm not so sure we're hit anything outside of the first.That's a great infographic Moskau. It's pretty clearly a systemic problem that needs to be addressed badly if we ever want to turn into Tampa Bay or Nashville.
We just don't hit on draft picks outside of the first 2 rounds.
Guhle hopefully, Asplund hopefullyImplying we've hit on any of our 2nd round draft picks... I'm not so sure we're hit anything outside of the first.