Injury Report: Ryan Suter (Lower-Body Injury, Out for Season)

[Dr Jan Itor]

Where's the sense in wanting your best and most durable Dman to play less, just so your less talented and more injury prone players can play more? Suter has more than proven he can handle the minutes that he has been given.

I definitely don't want to drop them significantly, but if you can knock off ~2 minutes a game without negatively impacting the results, in the name of some future benefit, then I don't see the harm.

He was at 29+ four years ago, and has been sub-27 the last two, it's going in that direction anyway.

 

[TaLoN]

I definitely don't want to drop them significantly, but if you can knock off ~2 minutes a game without negatively impacting the results, in the name of some future benefit, then I don't see the harm.

He was at 29+ four years ago, and has been sub-27 the last two, it's going in that direction anyway.

Difference in depth behind him and different coaching staff. That said, I have no problem with him anywhere between 25-27/gm.

 

[2Pair]

Despite all the reports from the medical staff here at HFWild, Suter will be ready to go for training camp.

 

[TaLoN]

Despite all the reports from the medical staff here at HFWild, Suter will be ready to go for training camp.

Take key note of this from the article...

he simulated Boudreau’s skating test on Friday and passed with flying colors.
“I could do it. I’ll be fine,” Suter said, laughing. “You remember my comments last year, right? If I feel as good as I do now (on Sept. 14), I will do the skating test.”

So that's that. He's already proven he can do it. No concern about him doing the test if he's just doing something he's already doing now.

 

[57special]

Suter played less minutes in NSH than he did here. Playing over 25 minutes per game when we have Dmen in their prime such as Spurgeon, Brodin, and Dumba to also play big minutes strikes me as insane, especially for a player well into his 30's. Wear, tear, and fatigue does matter.

 

[2Pair]

Suter played less minutes in NSH than he did here. Playing over 25 minutes per game when we have Dmen in their prime such as Spurgeon, Brodin, and Dumba to also play big minutes strikes me as insane, especially for a player well into his 30's. Wear, tear, and fatigue does matter.

Brodin and Spurgeon can't hold up to the minutes they're already playing, why would you want to increase them? It would be great to cut down some of Suter's PK time, but even then I would just increase his even strength minutes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Suter playing 26-27 minutes a night. Being able to play at that level is a major part of what makes him great.

 

[TaLoN]

Suter played less minutes in NSH than he did here. Playing over 25 minutes per game when we have Dmen in their prime such as Spurgeon, Brodin, and Dumba to also play big minutes strikes me as insane, especially for a player well into his 30's. Wear, tear, and fatigue does matter.

When he was playing 29-30 mins/gm I was all for reducing the minutes, but playing 25-27? No problem with that because he plays so efficiently. He plays a style like Lidstrom who played more than 25mins/gm when he was 40.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

When he was playing 29-30 mins/gm I was all for reducing the minutes, but playing 25-27? No problem with that because he plays so efficiently. He plays a style like Lidstrom who played more than 25mins/gm when he was 40.

Lidstrom's ATOI for his age 40 season was 23:28 (he also won his final Norris that season).

I agree with your basic point though.

 

[TaLoN]

Lidstrom's ATOI for his age 40 season was 23:28 (he also won his final Norris that season).

I agree with your basic point though.

Sorry, I meant his 39yro season....

Didn't see his late April birth date.

25:26 avg toi in 2009-10.

Point still remains.

 

[Nharris31]

Interview with Ryan Suter about his injury
Ryan Suter and Todd Steussie (ep.172) - 1500 ESPN Twin Cities

 

[TaLoN]

Suter is playing tonight! Hope he pairs with Dumba...

 

[57special]

I wonder if they will play him with Spurgeon just to keep his blood pressure down. Sort of ease him into the season.

I'm sure that the team docs know what they are doing, but part of me wants to keep him off the ice till Xmas. I want a fully healed Suter, and one that is well rested. I do not want a Suter with a chronically bad foot. all it takes is one slap shot in the wrong place...

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I wonder if they will play him with Spurgeon just to keep his blood pressure down. Sort of ease him into the season.

I'm sure that the team docs know what they are doing, but part of me wants to keep him off the ice till Xmas. I want a fully healed Suter, and one that is well rested. I do not want a Suter with a chronically bad foot. all it takes is one slap shot in the wrong place...

That could happen after Christmas as well. Or to anybody at any time.

 

[SomethingGeneric]

I really would like to think that if the Wild are willing to play Suter in a preseason game, he would be at least 90%+ healed so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that he is good to go but yes @57special it would suck if something fluky happened.

 

[Goose312]

I'd feel better about Suter playing if WPG was icing their NHL roster as well instead of the NHL/AHL mix they are going with. I can just imagine some AHL plug trying to prove their worth and getting a bit too excited finishing a nothing check that ends up going poorly.

 

[57special]

That could happen after Christmas as well. Or to anybody at any time.

Yes, but it would be worse with a slapshot to an already broken, newly healed area.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I wonder if they will play him with Spurgeon just to keep his blood pressure down. Sort of ease him into the season.

They should play him with whoever he’s going to play with in order to iron out any kinks while the games don’t matter.

 

[TaLoN]

They've all been adamant that he's COMPLETELY healed. I'm not concerned at all, other than the amount of minor league players on the other side, which often leads to stupid players doing stupid things to show their coach that they will go to war for them if they make the team.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

They've all been adamant that he's COMPLETELY healed. I'm not concerned at all, other than the amount of minor league players on the other side, which often leads to stupid players doing stupid things to show their coach that they will go to war for them if they make the team.

Bolded is absolutely false. He cannot walk normally.

I don't disagree with the logic that he needs to test it in a hostile game at some point, and if he's not ready for NHL hockey, might as well find out sooner than later. But to say it's healed is wrong. Big risk playing Suter tonight, as it is for all the roster regulars with zero to gain and possibly a season to lose.

 

[2Pair]

Bolded is absolutely false. He cannot walk normally.

I don't disagree with the logic that he needs to test it in a hostile game at some point, and if he's not ready for NHL hockey, might as well find out sooner than later. But to say it's healed is wrong. Big risk playing Suter tonight, as it is for all the roster regulars with zero to gain and possibly a season to lose.

Where did you hear that?

 

[Goose312]

Don't know if it's specifically true that he can't walk normally, but listening to Russo's latest podcast he did mention that very recently was the first time he's seen Suter walking without a limp. So he was limping even after he's been more or less cleared to play and skating in practice.

But part of that might also be that the motion of walking isn't as easy with this injury whereas skating might not be as impacted.

 

[TaLoN]

Don't know if it's specifically true that he can't walk normally, but listening to Russo's latest podcast he did mention that very recently was the first time he's seen Suter walking without a limp. So he was limping even after he's been more or less cleared to play and skating in practice.

But part of that might also be that the motion of walking isn't as easy with this injury whereas skating might not be as impacted.

They still say his career would have been over in other sports, so obviously they do account for skating being different than running.

That said, they said he's completely healed in terms of being able to play hockey, not football.

 

[absolute garbage]

O boy. If that's Suter's level going forward, this team will be in trouble.

Very timid and limited in his movement. Guess it could be just trust/comfort issue, but if it's actually permanent range of motion and power issues, things just got a lot more difficult.

 

[Wabit]

O boy. If that's Suter's level going forward, this team will be in trouble.

Very timid and limited in his movement. Guess it could be just trust/comfort issue, but if it's actually permanent range of motion and power issues, things just got a lot more difficult.

Meh, he got the "butterfly game" out of the way: he took some hits, went into the corners, and got into some game action. He looked rusty, but it was his first game action while everyone else has 2 games under their belts.

How he feels today and tomorrow (recovery time) is more what I'm worried about than how he looked last night.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

O boy. If that's Suter's level going forward, this team will be in trouble.

Very timid and limited in his movement. Guess it could be just trust/comfort issue, but if it's actually permanent range of motion and power issues, things just got a lot more difficult.

I feel very comfortable that it won't be.