Player Discussion: Ryan Pulock

[Kevin27NYI]

What kind of contract do people think Pulock should be getting after this year?

I would be tempted to offer him a long term deal to get a low AAV for cap flexibility down the road. Imagine what his point totals are going to be once he’s fully immersed on the top powerplay.

It's going to be short term and low money I think, if I were his agent that's what I'd do and then cash in in two years.

Watch him get 7 years now.

 

[BreadManPanarin]

It's going to be short term and low money I think, if I were his agent that's what I'd do.

Agent to GM: "We'd like low money and short term, or we're walking"

GM to Agent: "Done."

GM to Assistant: "Whew, thought we'd at least have to give money OR term. Why can't all negotiations be this easy? Let's go get hammered."

 

[Lame Lambert]

Pulock is the only D deserving of a long term contract. However, this is the Islanders, so he’ll get a 1 year deal while we lock our bottom pairing up for eternity.

 

[oldunclehue]

It's going to be short term and low money I think, if I were his agent that's what I'd do and then cash in in two years.

Watch him get 7 years now.

Lol short term and low money....what? Contract negotiations must not be your forté.

I assume the power being in Pulock’s corner after this season it will either be short term with money money or long term with less.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Pulock is the only D deserving of a long term contract. However, this is the Islanders, so he’ll get a 1 year deal while we lock our bottom pairing up for eternity.

It's a new theory out there and I'm willing to see how this works. Lock up the bottom pairing and bottom six players but don't sign the top six players and top four defenseman.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Lol short term and low money....what? Contract negotiations must not be your forté.

I assume the power being in Pulock’s corner after this season it will either be short term with money money or long term with less.

Bridge contracts are traditionally low term and low pay. There is no power in Pulocks corner, he's coming off his ELC. Check how Subban got a 2 year deal after his ELC at *gasp* 2.85 million. Then he cashed in. Contract negotiations must not be your forte either.

 

[SI90]

He should put a #1 PP clause in his contract

 

[Lame Lambert]

Staple said he could see Pulock getting an 8 year deal at 4-5 million. Said he will be a 1st pairing D.

 

[Konk]

Staple said he could see Pulock getting an 8 year deal at 4-5 million. Said he will be a 1st pairing D.

I would agree and I think he slowly became our best defenseman this past season. It would be smart to lock him up now, he's improved on all of his weaknesses since juniors and has even turned some of them into strengths. He's a damn good all-around defender with a cannon. Now we need another one like him for the left side.

 

[Lame Lambert]

I would agree and I think he slowly became our best defenseman this past season. It would be smart to lock him up now, he's improved on all of his weaknesses since juniors and has even turned some of them into strengths. He's a damn good all-around defender with a cannon. Now we need another one like him for the left side.

Dahlin-Pulock or OEL-Pulock would be damn good. Leddy-Boychuk as the 2nd pair and Pelech-Mayfield as the 3rd.

 

[Islesfan22]

To think some people wanted to expose Pulock to the expansion draft.

 

[Konk]

Dahlin-Pulock or OEL-Pulock would be damn good. Leddy-Boychuk as the 2nd pair and Pelech-Mayfield as the 3rd.

Would look great, I just don't see it happening. We're Isles fans, our bar is so low you could trip over it.

Ty Smith - Ryan Pulock is about as high as I'm allowing myself to dream, to avoid further disappointment.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

It's a new theory out there and I'm willing to see how this works. Lock up the bottom pairing and bottom six players but don't sign the top six players and top four defenseman.

Garth Snow, revolutionizing the GM position. So far ahead of his time that none of us will be alive when his thinking becomes the norm.

 

[MattMartin]

It's a new theory out there and I'm willing to see how this works. Lock up the bottom pairing and bottom six players but don't sign the top six players and top four defenseman.

 

[YearlyLottery]

To think some people wanted to expose Pulock to the expansion draft.

Hmmmm... I can remember one poster in particular around here who seemed to scoff at many posters who believed Pulock would become a stud THIS YEAR. Looking forward him coming back around here and defending the anti Pulock agenda.

 

[MJF]

Garth Snow, revolutionizing the GM position. So far ahead of his time that none of us will be alive when his thinking becomes the norm.

Yep, build your roster from the bottom up and then out sideways. Lock up for 5 years the most easily replaced parts so you can say you got them at a lower annual cost.

 

[isles31]

Hmmmm... I can remember one poster in particular around here who seemed to scoff at many posters who believed Pulock would become a stud THIS YEAR. Looking forward him coming back around here and defending the anti Pulock agenda.

I remember most people being mortified that Snow would not protect him...then most people being pissed he wasn't playing out of the gate. The Pulock detractors had to be few and far between. Kid progressed quite a bit this season. This is a kid they should lock up, not Mayfield.

 

[oldunclehue]

Bridge contracts are traditionally low term and low pay. There is no power in Pulocks corner, he's coming off his ELC. Check how Subban got a 2 year deal after his ELC at *gasp* 2.85 million. Then he cashed in. Contract negotiations must not be your forte either.

I agree but also some teams are kicking themselves for these bridge deals, and Pulock may be one to get a longer term at a bit higher rate. It's all about risk vs reward. Lots believe he will be an impact Dman for whatever team for years to come, potential of being a number 1 PP specialist and has shown he can eat up minutes in 5v5.

So as a team do you risk a bridge deal at a bit lower, then the player has two great years and all of the sudden he wants 8 million a year plus (like Subban did) for multiple years. Or do you lock him in now at 4-5 million for 8 years and reap the benefits of a good Dman making middle of the pack cash?

 

[PK Cronin]

I remember most people being mortified that Snow would not protect him...then most people being pissed he wasn't playing out of the gate. The Pulock detractors had to be few and far between. Kid progressed quite a bit this season. This is a kid they should lock up, not Mayfield.

Who people are upset about Snow protecting during the expansion draft seems to slide depending upon the time of year and the circumstances around the team.

 

[Lame Lambert]

There’s no doubt in my mind that Pulock can score 20+ next year if he’s utilized properly

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Agent to GM: "We'd like low money and short term, or we're walking"

GM to Agent: "Done."

GM to Assistant: "Whew, thought we'd at least have to give money OR term. Why can't all negotiations be this easy? Let's go get hammered."

I agree but also some teams are kicking themselves for these bridge deals, and Pulock may be one to get a longer term at a bit higher rate. It's all about risk vs reward. Lots believe he will be an impact Dman for whatever team for years to come, potential of being a number 1 PP specialist and has shown he can eat up minutes in 5v5.

So as a team do you risk a bridge deal at a bit lower, then the player has two great years and all of the sudden he wants 8 million a year plus (like Subban did) for multiple years. Or do you lock him in now at 4-5 million for 8 years and reap the benefits of a good Dman making middle of the pack cash?

Like I said, if I were his agent I'd rather go for the 2 year 2.5 million and cash in after based on the potential we saw this year than 8 years 4.5 million. After cashing in you could be at 54 million over 9 years with a two year bridge at 2.5 million and a 7x7 after versus 36 million over 8 years like Staple said. But contracts aren't my forte..

 

[YearlyLottery]

Like I said, if I were his agent I'd rather go for the 2 year 2.5 million and cash in after based on the potential we saw this year than 8 years 4.5 million. After cashing in you could be at 54 million over 9 years with a two year bridge at 2.5 million and a 7x7 after versus 36 million over 8 years like Staple said. But contracts aren't my forte..

Don't worry, they aren't Snow's either.

 

[Quickdraw2828]

Staple said he could see Pulock getting an 8 year deal at 4-5 million. Said he will be a 1st pairing D.

I'm down with 4 million long term, but seriously I think he's eventually going to put Lee in the emergency room..

 

[Hunn]

Found in my old phone the following text from last year deadline:

For example, how you would tweak "Hamonic OR Pulock + Strome OR Nelson + 1st + midround pick" to make it acceptable from the viewpoint of Avalanche rebuild?

OR was XOR, I hope.

Right now I won't trade Pulock straight 1-for-1 for Duschene.

 

[PWJunior]

Found in my old phone the following text from last year deadline:



OR was XOR, I hope.

Right now I won't trade Pulock straight 1-for-1 for Duschene.

Not sure I follow exactly, is that a proposal from an Avs fan? Or an Isles fan?

Need a little more background.