Proposal: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Edmonton/Islanders

[Brock Radunske]

Please provide feedback for this proposal and or counter offers.

To Islanders:

-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
-2019 3rd pick

To Edmonton:

-Josh Bailey
-Michael Dal Colle

Islander would take that so damn quick.

 

[rockinghockey]

Your arguments fail to pass the logic test.

If Bailey is the better player now and he can play C (and I'll add he's locked up longer and for less) why would the Isle add to him to try and get RNH?

Because you want RNH and EDM doesn’t want Bailey

 

[Seachd]

Nuge + 2nd
For
Wahlstrom + Bellows

Or

Nuge + 3rd
For
Bellows + Beaviller + Ho-Sang

Or you could give us Dobson/Pulock. Thats what we'd want. If you want to part with that thats for you to decide.

These seem pretty fugly for the Oilers.

 

[THall4]

Oilers reject that one quite easily.

 

[THall4]

I can't believe the mess I have created. I believe RNH would have been a good potential 2C for our new obvious need. I may have undervalued him. With that said I believe the Oiler's fans have overvalued him with some of the counters. Long story short I don't think this one is a match.

I'll blame my proposals on PTSD

Post Tavares Stress Disorder.

Cheers

No worries.

A lot of Oiler fans have a very very VERY soft spot for RNH..im not sure the reasoning..I bet if the Oilers did a fan vote he'd finish a close 2nd to McDavid as a fan favorite.

Its very rare you see anyone knock on Nuge...even local media...

 

[THall4]

You don't have Garff tuggin trades for you anymore...

 

[THall4]

I wouldn't trade wahlstrom for rnh one for one

Nor should you.

Wahlstrom would be an absolute menace on Leon's right side

 

[Jared Dunn]

Edmonton gives up the better player who plays the more valuable position. The rest of the parts, the pick and the prospect, have little value.

But, RNH has only really looked like the better player when playing on McDavid's wing. You can have one point but not both lol

 

[Jared Dunn]

No worries.

A lot of Oiler fans have a very very VERY soft spot for RNH..im not sure the reasoning..I bet if the Oilers did a fan vote he'd finish a close 2nd to McDavid as a fan favorite.

Its very rare you see anyone knock on Nuge...even local media...

Part of that is probably not wanting to give up yet another #1 overall, but I've also heard Nuge is one of the best on the team in the community and with fans

 

[One Winged Angel]

Not saying that Bailey is better than RNH - it’s impossible to tell. However, you got to consider that Bailey got a higher PPG than RNH during the last two seasons. 0,80 compared to 0,63.

Why do you believe RNH is better than Bailey?

Bailey played with Tavares.

 

[Jamin]

Nor should you.

Wahlstrom would be an absolute menace on Leon's right side

Or he could be a Yakupov or Bennet.

Isles lost their captain, fans are probably a little more patient for a bad year next year than oiler fans are. Let Wahlstrom develop and take his time.

Oilers would be essentially trading a proven top 6 player for magic beans. It would decimate our depth for the upcoming season in the hopes that in a few years he will be a better player then RNH.

Might be worth the gamble and in a few years Ill laugh at myself for this post. Or he could bust or be equal to RNH or not as good.

There is more risk to developing prospects then HF gives credit for I feel. Especially when its the Oilers doing the developing

 

[THall4]

Or he could be a Yakupov or Bennet.

Isles lost their captain, fans are probably a little more patient for a bad year next year than oiler fans are. Let Wahlstrom develop and take his time.

Oilers would be essentially trading a proven top 6 player for magic beans. It would decimate our depth for the upcoming season in the hopes that in a few years he will be a better player then RNH.

Might be worth the gamble and in a few years Ill laugh at myself for this post. Or he could bust or be equal to RNH or not as good.

There is more risk to developing prospects then HF gives credit for I feel. Especially when its the Oilers doing the developing

Hard to disagree with anything you said.

I was referring more so to down the road...not in the now, but I wasn't very clear at all. so I can understand the misconception.

 

[Strait2thecup]

These seem pretty fugly for the Oilers.

Interesting bc if I were lou I’d hang up the phone

 

[10Ducky10]

The Jets send Mathieu Perreault and Tyler Myers to the Oilers for RNH.

 

[Fantomas]

Dal Colle has no value.

 

[KarmaPolice]

We like the Nuge; he's been the least of our issues. He fits in well playing with McDavid or by playing center. He's not someone who should be on the table for us unless we're getting a clear upgrade. Bailey had one great season, but I'm not sold on that, nor do we know exactly how he may fit playing with McDavid, as not every player tried fits in well with his speed and style of game. It would being trading a known commodity we are happy with for a question mark. Dal Colle has no interest to us, nor do I see him having much value, objectively speaking. It's an easy pass.

 

[Homesick]

But, RNH has only really looked like the better player when playing on McDavid's wing. You can have one point but not both lol

Bailey has only looked better for two seasons out of 7(on Tavares line). Plus RNH looked great at the beginning of the year on his own

 

[72hockey guy]

Nuge is not better than bailey and he has not improved one iota since his rookie season, despite playing With Hall, Draisaitl. and McDavid, each as good as Tavares. that plus hes more expensive. I wouldnt touch this as an islander fan

sorry but there is heavy oiler bias here

 

[Perfect_Drug]

The Jets send Mathieu Perreault and Tyler Myers to the Oilers for RNH.

Would do an extended Myers.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

But, RNH has only really looked like the better player when playing on McDavid's wing. You can have one point but not both lol

He was also on pace for a 30-30 season before playing a second of time with McDavid or Draisaitl, as well as being on a shit 2nd PP.

 

[10Ducky10]

Would do an extended Myers.

I should have stated that if he re-signs, a 3rd comes back. I think it is a deal that helps out both teams in areas of need.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Bailey played with Tavares.

Tavares is good but Bailey was no passenger

He has matured a lot over the years. Without JT he isn’t a 70 pt player but I see no reason he isn’t a 50-60 pt one

 

[belair]

Tavares is good but Bailey was no passenger

He has matured a lot over the years. Without JT he isn’t a 70 pt player but I see no reason he isn’t a 50-60 pt one

I do. Who's his center?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The Jets send Mathieu Perreault and Tyler Myers to the Oilers for RNH.

The hell they do. Not dealing RNH for rentals and bandaids and that’s too much cap besides.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Tavares is good but Bailey was no passenger

He has matured a lot over the years. Without JT he isn’t a 70 pt player but I see no reason he isn’t a 50-60 pt one

He was never a 50 point player before Tavares. He was the whipping boy of every islander fan before that.