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Jake bean? Owen Tippett???? Are you f***ing serious 
that list makes you look like someone who has a certain bias
that list makes you look like someone who has a certain bias
RW Vitaly Kravtsov (2018, 9th, NYR; traded to VAN) Part2
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Podkolzin, ty smith, mcmicheal, Bouchard, broberg, Norris are all better than Kravtsov. How on earth is Kravtsov better than Norris and Bouchard
norris 61 points 56 games AHL
Bouchard 36 points 54 games AHL
Kravtsov 15 points 39 games AHL
Bouchard demolished Kravtsov in points being a D
The debate we’re having here is the on the better prospect, not the better player right now. That’s what you stated initially. These players are still young enough where you can incorporate upside into your judgement.
There have been several prospects drafted over the past decade who displayed exceptional upside but simply required patience. Filip Forsberg, Denis Gurianov, and Timo Meier are all examples of highly drafted prospects that exhibited elite talent and needed to develop. Raymond, Rossi, and Holtz are probably a step up on Byfield right now, but you better believe Byfield is a superior prospect.
When Kravtsov puts it together he has potential to be a top player on the list you drew up. Upside > 20 year old development curve status.
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Krav had a hard time adjusting to the AHL last year... He looks like a totally different player so far this year. Hes 100% better then Pod. Only one I'd say is debatable is Ty Smith anad maybe Broberg.
Tippet was PPG in the AHL. How did Kravtsov do there again? I agree Bean sucks though.Jake bean? Owen Tippett???? Are you f***ing serious
that list makes you look like someone who has a certain bias
Most teams have a prospect better than him. Which isnt a big knock, plenty of teams have 1 or two great prospects
Podkolzin plays for a good team with good players and gets 10-11 min/gp and no power play time. While Kravtsov gets 16-17 min/gp and plays on power play.
I don't blame Rangers fans for expecting him to be great, considering the draft pick they used to get him. But he was likely drafted a round or two early...maybe its better to view him as 3rd rounder who has exhibited some upside.
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This is such nonsense. Podkolzin has had problems scoring since his draft year. Swap their positions on different teams and Kravtsov will still be out producing him.
Also lol at the notion Krav should have been a 3rd round pick in 2018, Krav had a very strong draft year and D+1. Just because he had a turbulent d+2 where he had a hard time adjusting to life in NA suddenly makes him a "3rd round pick with upside". If you watched any of his KHL games this year you'd see he looks like a totally different player.
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Did not say he should have been drafted in 3rd round.
I said he should now be viewed as a 3rd rounder. I am saying lower expectations on him, give him time to develop .... as you would a European-based 3rd rounder. I think - because of his high draft position - he was rushed.
(and FWIW, if I redid his draft year, he would be ranked late 1st, early 2nd)
I would put him 10-15 first round redraft not even counting how he started the KHL season. Looks completely different than last year. It’s so fluid with these prospects but yes I’ve been screaming it too let him develop another year or so in the KHL with no distractions
I get this feeling that opposing fanbases are trying hard to diminish Rangers prospects because how highly they're thought of in that department. If someone say late 1st rounder MAYBE early 2nd rounder because you don't feel he's as good as others do, I'd buy it. GTFO here with this 3rd rounder, you look like a fool.
I'd love to hear who from Round 2 and beyond in 2018 you now have over Kravtsov. There isn't an argument for literally anybody besides Romanov. He's very easily still top 15 in a redraft, your bias is outrageous
I haven't re-ranked this whole draft, but guys who were 2nd round or later...
Alexander Romanov
Scott Perunovich
Kirill Marchenko
Akil Thomas
Kevin Bahl
Jan Jenik
Tyler Madden
Alexander Khovanov
Ty Emberson
(1st rounders I'd probably take after him: O'Brien, Johansson, Beaudin)
So late 1st, early 2nd sounds about right
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Can we save the re-draft stuff for another thread?
Back to Kravtsov, he’s been out with an injury the last few games.
Back to Kravtsov, he’s been out with an injury the last few games.
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"There is a chance he will join the team for the upcoming road trip".
Tippet had an outstanding first full year of pro hockey...he’s got some big goal scoring upside also. What’s so shocking?Jake bean? Owen Tippett???? Are you f***ing serious
that list makes you look like someone who has a certain bias
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I'm not huge on either of these guys, but based upon my viewings, I think I'd take kravtsov over tippett.
