Speculation: Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2018-19

[SI]

Nurse and RNH
For Leddy and Nelson

Mittelstadt, Guehle, and one of their #1's
For Leddy

Then move Nelson for a d man

 

[LeapOnOver]

I’m skeptical that these sources still exist with Lamoriello in the fold. Also, Pagnotta may have some connections, but until he can actually get verified on Twitter, he’s not on the same level on Bob or LeBrun.

Twitter has temporarily suspended it's verification program to overhaul (because it was a joke). The average Joe was easily getting verified by following several steps. Just took some time and effort. So Pagnotta may very well be "verifiable" but won't be able to have that happen until Twitter starts it back up again. So your Twitter thing is kind of a moot point because it's currently not possible.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Coyle is terrible and isn't a C

Coyle definitely came into the league as a C. He was on my fantasy league and it was his only position eligibility. Not sure about now. He seemed okay when I watched him play, but would agree he's more of a low end 2c and better as a 3C.

 

[SI90]

Nurse and RNH
For Leddy and Nelson

Mittelstadt, Guehle, and one of their #1's
For Leddy

Then move Nelson for a d man

I honestly don’t think BUF would do Mittlestadt alone for Leddy.

Too much upside.

 

[Macch]

So Leddy is playing terrible again and because of this people want to trade him.

Yet those same people are asked for top prospects?

 

[IODCPiper]

Most of his mistakes have been him being too aggressive and trying to do too much. I have no doubt our current coaching staff can get him to play a cleaner game.

If he was having defensive issues (a la Pulock) I'd be more worried.

This is why lou needs to hire scott stevens to take over as coach in bridge

 

[seafoam]

This is why lou needs to hire scott stevens to take over as coach in bridge

Why would he leave his cushy TV analyst job to ride buses in the minors?

 

[seafoam]

So Leddy is playing terrible again and because of this people want to trade him.

Yet those same people are asked for top prospects?

It’s not even that he’s playing terrible. I just think what he provides can eventually be provided with what they have in-house, so they should trade him for a different type of defenseman that we could use more (i.e. shut down guy).

 

[Le Grec]

How about Leddy, Nelson, and a 3rd for Carter and Muzzin?

 

[SCMURRAY]

How about Leddy, Nelson, and a 3rd for Carter and Muzzin?

While I really like both Carter and Muzzin, Id hesitate on this deal. Has a good foundation but Carter and Muzzin are both older then Leddy and Nelson, plus the 3rd. Carter will be 34 this season. I think he'd be fantastic behind Barzal but if this team is "retooling" I dont think adding more older guys to the mix is wise

 

[seafoam]

How about Leddy, Nelson, and a 3rd for Carter and Muzzin?

I don’t think that gets you one of them personally.

 

[beach]

To be fair to Graziano (who I feel absolutely had sources, he was spot on with the Duchene rumors and Staple reported much of what he was putting out first at the time. Specifically about Barzal being the center asking piece and Sakic not budging etc, almost blow by blow). Graziano recorded the podcast Monday night and went into more detail then what Pagnotta tweeted. I just want to make sure he gets the credit here, but Pagnotta with the way he handled this past off-season has absolutely cemented his place as an insider, probably at the level of Bob and LeBrun and above Friedman and Dreger.

I'm above Dreger. He only gets done deal news first.

 

[CREW99AW]

It’s not even that he’s playing terrible. I just think what he provides can eventually be provided with what they have in-house, so they should trade him for a different type of defenseman that we could use more (i.e. shut down guy).

I would be more comfortable moving Leddy if Toews was playing and producing in the nhl already

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Nurse and RNH
For Leddy and Nelson

Mittelstadt, Guehle, and one of their #1's
For Leddy

Then move Nelson for a d man

I don't see why either team does the above trades with the Isles. Nurse isn't as good offensively as Leddy, but he's still a mobile guy who can chip in 25-30 points, while being much better defensively. And as much as he's a disappointment as a 1st overall pick, RNH is way better than Nelson.

As for the Buffalo deal, that would have been like proposing trading Barzal, Toews and a 1st for Shattenkirk or Barrie prior to Barzal's rookie season.

 

[SI]

I don't see why either team does the above trades with the Isles. Nurse isn't as good offensively as Leddy, but he's still a mobile guy who can chip in 25-30 points, while being much better defensively. And as much as he's a disappointment as a 1st overall pick, RNH is way better than Nelson.

As for the Buffalo deal, that would have been like proposing trading Barzal, Toews and a 1st for Shattenkirk or Barrie prior to Barzal's rookie season.

Just some ideas -
Oilers need a puck moving D man like Leddy he signed for 3+ years at 5.5-

The drama surrounding Nurse's contract and speculation that they may have been something broken in the relationship.

And the RNH filling the 2C option lead me to try to balance the deal - RNH playing W currently.

its not the same thing as Shattenkirk since he was an RFA maybe the better comparison is Barrie, but Eichel is locked up - JT was heading to FA a bit of a different scenario.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Just some ideas -
Oilers need a puck moving D man like Leddy he signed for 3+ years at 5.5-

So do the Islanders.

 

[Le Grec]

While I really like both Carter and Muzzin, Id hesitate on this deal. Has a good foundation but Carter and Muzzin are both older then Leddy and Nelson, plus the 3rd. Carter will be 34 this season. I think he'd be fantastic behind Barzal but if this team is "retooling" I dont think adding more older guys to the mix is wise

How about Nelson and Wilde for Carter and possible pick? (2nd if LA trades Nelson or his rights, or re-signs)

 

[Le Grec]

I don’t think that gets you one of them personally.

That's ridiculous...

 

[Riseonfire]

Why would he leave his cushy TV analyst job to ride buses in the minors?

Well if he has plans to be a coach that's likely where he'd start.

 

[seafoam]

Well if he has plans to be a coach that's likely where he'd start.

I thought he’s already coached behind an NHL bench in Minnesota.

 

[seafoam]

That's ridiculous...

Carter would be right behind Barzal as the team’s best player, and Muzzin would be the best D they’ve have since...

Nelson’s value isn’t nothing crazy (thinking 2nd & 3rd) because he’s really a winger and Leddy’s best suited as a 3D. Of course this is all my opinion, but I’m not as high on either of them as some around here seem to be.

 

[seafoam]

I would love to swap Leddy for Nurse and Nelson for RNH, which is exactly why Edmonton wouldn’t do it.

 

[Brunomics]

I would love to swap Leddy for Nurse and Nelson for RNH, which is exactly why Edmonton wouldn’t do it.

What about Leddy and Nelson for RNH and a 2nd?

 

[seafoam]

What about Leddy and Nelson for RNH and a 2nd?

Personally, I’m not trading Leddy unless there’s a defenseman coming back.

 

[CREW99AW]

How about Leddy, Nelson, and a 3rd for Carter and Muzzin?

Gross two 30 something yr olds, whose best yrs are behind them.