Perhaps it will be held in Red Deer this year if things are still as severe as they are right now.
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Perhaps it will be held in Red Deer this year if things are still as severe as they are right now.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Absolutely he needs to. He's getting paid Norris trophy money, and his performance last year in the playoffs was average.
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Except the Testosterone Kev, who not only offersheeted Penner, but also threatened to take Burkie to the barn and do to him god knows what )))
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The same thing every year Summer is too long a season that goes by way too fast, the only difference is it does not slow down as you age it just speeds up.
duul
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The only players who come here 'on a discount' are mercenary types who are here to ride shotgun with McDavid, earn a contract, and then try to leave.
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The sense is that Barrie is going to test the free-agent market. He's earned that right and given everything that Ken Holland and the Oilers are going to have to go through with hefty negotiations with Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, and others, you need to be able to compare apples to apples.
Tyson Barrie would very much like to stay in Edmonton but he also wants some stability. We're talking about a five- or six-year term, so most likely, he goes to the open market to see what the bigger picture looks like as well.
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The Edmonton Oilers have granted Evander Kane permission to speak with other teams before the NHL’s free agency period opens and Colorado’s Nicolas Aube-Kubel went from celebrating with the Stanley Cup on Saturday to not receiving a qualifying offer from the Avalanche on Monday.
In a text to The Associated Press, Kane’s agent, Daniel Milstein, wrote he’s opening talks with other teams while also continuing discussions with the Oilers with his client eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on Wednesday.
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The only player in my memory who took a cut to play here is Nuge. This is like the people talking about how Brown signed here for ONLY 775k and what a great guy he is, wanting to come here and win a Cup. No, we are paying him 4 million and no other team in the league was ever going to give him that much.
Coincidentally with the two links I posted, neither of those guys chose to play here on a discount to try and win a championship. They both signed here due to a lack of options with the cap not rising in COVID times. They signed here because they had their contracts terminated or they thought an opportunity would arise where they could play here for one year, be given insane McDavid minutes (which they both were) and then reap the rewards in free agency a year later.
Barrie went and tested free agency. Nobody was willing to give him as much money as we were for term, so he was forced to stay here.
Kane went and negotiated with other teams and ALSO found out nobody else was going to give him the money we were offering, so he stayed.
It's so funny reading the cope in here with people thinking these guys are here at a discount because they love the city and want to win. No, they played mercenary roles and are now still here because we gave them the most cash. Nobody wanted Kane, nobody was willing to give Barrie 4.5 mil a year because nobody else could give him endless PP minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl.
Again, the ONLY player who has taken an actual discount to stay here long term as a proud Oiler is Nuge. He might disappear in the playoffs, but he is the one and only on the current team who left money on the table to try and win. Good on him.
Insider Trading: Will Barrie see what the free-agent market has to offer? - TSN.ca
Gerard Gallant is Canada's head coach for the upcoming World Hockey Championships, but could there be an opportunity for him to get back behind an NHL bench? The Oilers have a number of players becoming free-agents this summer, so how close are they to locking up some of their blueliners? TSN...
www.tsn.ca
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The sense is that Barrie is going to test the free-agent market. He's earned that right and given everything that Ken Holland and the Oilers are going to have to go through with hefty negotiations with Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, and others, you need to be able to compare apples to apples.
Tyson Barrie would very much like to stay in Edmonton but he also wants some stability. We're talking about a five- or six-year term, so most likely, he goes to the open market to see what the bigger picture looks like as well.
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Evander Kane’s agent says Oilers have given him green light to negotiate with other NHL teams - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
Oilers GM Ken Holland last week said he was having daily conversations in a bid to re-sign Kane.
globalnews.ca
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The Edmonton Oilers have granted Evander Kane permission to speak with other teams before the NHL’s free agency period opens and Colorado’s Nicolas Aube-Kubel went from celebrating with the Stanley Cup on Saturday to not receiving a qualifying offer from the Avalanche on Monday.
In a text to The Associated Press, Kane’s agent, Daniel Milstein, wrote he’s opening talks with other teams while also continuing discussions with the Oilers with his client eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on Wednesday.
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The only player in my memory who took a cut to play here is Nuge. This is like the people talking about how Brown signed here for ONLY 775k and what a great guy he is, wanting to come here and win a Cup. No, we are paying him 4 million and no other team in the league was ever going to give him that much.
Coincidentally with the two links I posted, neither of those guys chose to play here on a discount to try and win a championship. They both signed here due to a lack of options with the cap not rising in COVID times. They signed here because they had their contracts terminated or they thought an opportunity would arise where they could play here for one year, be given insane McDavid minutes (which they both were) and then reap the rewards in free agency a year later.
Barrie went and tested free agency. Nobody was willing to give him as much money as we were for term, so he was forced to stay here.
Kane went and negotiated with other teams and ALSO found out nobody else was going to give him the money we were offering, so he stayed.
It's so funny reading the cope in here with people thinking these guys are here at a discount because they love the city and want to win. No, they played mercenary roles and are now still here because we gave them the most cash. Nobody wanted Kane, nobody was willing to give Barrie 4.5 mil a year because nobody else could give him endless PP minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl.
Again, the ONLY player who has taken an actual discount to stay here long term as a proud Oiler is Nuge. He might disappear in the playoffs, but he is the one and only on the current team who left money on the table to try and win. Good on him.
The only players who come here 'on a discount' are mercenary types who are here to ride shotgun with McDavid, earn a contract, and then try to leave.
Insider Trading: Will Barrie see what the free-agent market has to offer? - TSN.ca
Gerard Gallant is Canada's head coach for the upcoming World Hockey Championships, but could there be an opportunity for him to get back behind an NHL bench? The Oilers have a number of players becoming free-agents this summer, so how close are they to locking up some of their blueliners? TSN...
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The sense is that Barrie is going to test the free-agent market. He's earned that right and given everything that Ken Holland and the Oilers are going to have to go through with hefty negotiations with Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, and others, you need to be able to compare apples to apples.
Tyson Barrie would very much like to stay in Edmonton but he also wants some stability. We're talking about a five- or six-year term, so most likely, he goes to the open market to see what the bigger picture looks like as well.
'
Evander Kane’s agent says Oilers have given him green light to negotiate with other NHL teams - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
Oilers GM Ken Holland last week said he was having daily conversations in a bid to re-sign Kane.
'
The Edmonton Oilers have granted Evander Kane permission to speak with other teams before the NHL’s free agency period opens and Colorado’s Nicolas Aube-Kubel went from celebrating with the Stanley Cup on Saturday to not receiving a qualifying offer from the Avalanche on Monday.
In a text to The Associated Press, Kane’s agent, Daniel Milstein, wrote he’s opening talks with other teams while also continuing discussions with the Oilers with his client eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on Wednesday.
'
The only player in my memory who took a cut to play here is Nuge. This is like the people talking about how Brown signed here for ONLY 775k and what a great guy he is, wanting to come here and win a Cup. No, we are paying him 4 million and no other team in the league was ever going to give him that much.
Coincidentally with the two links I posted, neither of those guys chose to play here on a discount to try and win a championship. They both signed here due to a lack of options with the cap not rising in COVID times. They signed here because they had their contracts terminated or they thought an opportunity would arise where they could play here for one year, be given insane McDavid minutes (which they both were) and then reap the rewards in free agency a year later.
Barrie went and tested free agency. Nobody was willing to give him as much money as we were for term, so he was forced to stay here.
Kane went and negotiated with other teams and ALSO found out nobody else was going to give him the money we were offering, so he stayed.
It's so funny reading the cope in here with people thinking these guys are here at a discount because they love the city and want to win. No, they played mercenary roles and are now still here because we gave them the most cash. Nobody wanted Kane, nobody was willing to give Barrie 4.5 mil a year because nobody else could give him endless PP minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl.
Again, the ONLY player who has taken an actual discount to stay here long term as a proud Oiler is Nuge. He might disappear in the playoffs, but he is the one and only on the current team who left money on the table to try and win. Good on him.
Nobody got time to read all that crap.
SupremeTeam16
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I don’t even need to read the opinion of a dullard to know that it’s…The only players who come here 'on a discount' are mercenary types who are here to ride shotgun with McDavid, earn a contract, and then try to leave.
Insider Trading: Will Barrie see what the free-agent market has to offer? - TSN.ca
Gerard Gallant is Canada's head coach for the upcoming World Hockey Championships, but could there be an opportunity for him to get back behind an NHL bench? The Oilers have a number of players becoming free-agents this summer, so how close are they to locking up some of their blueliners? TSN...
'
The sense is that Barrie is going to test the free-agent market. He's earned that right and given everything that Ken Holland and the Oilers are going to have to go through with hefty negotiations with Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, and others, you need to be able to compare apples to apples.
Tyson Barrie would very much like to stay in Edmonton but he also wants some stability. We're talking about a five- or six-year term, so most likely, he goes to the open market to see what the bigger picture looks like as well.
'
Evander Kane’s agent says Oilers have given him green light to negotiate with other NHL teams - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
Oilers GM Ken Holland last week said he was having daily conversations in a bid to re-sign Kane.
'
The Edmonton Oilers have granted Evander Kane permission to speak with other teams before the NHL’s free agency period opens and Colorado’s Nicolas Aube-Kubel went from celebrating with the Stanley Cup on Saturday to not receiving a qualifying offer from the Avalanche on Monday.
In a text to The Associated Press, Kane’s agent, Daniel Milstein, wrote he’s opening talks with other teams while also continuing discussions with the Oilers with his client eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on Wednesday.
'
The only player in my memory who took a cut to play here is Nuge. This is like the people talking about how Brown signed here for ONLY 775k and what a great guy he is, wanting to come here and win a Cup. No, we are paying him 4 million and no other team in the league was ever going to give him that much.
Coincidentally with the two links I posted, neither of those guys chose to play here on a discount to try and win a championship. They both signed here due to a lack of options with the cap not rising in COVID times. They signed here because they had their contracts terminated or they thought an opportunity would arise where they could play here for one year, be given insane McDavid minutes (which they both were) and then reap the rewards in free agency a year later.
Barrie went and tested free agency. Nobody was willing to give him as much money as we were for term, so he was forced to stay here.
Kane went and negotiated with other teams and ALSO found out nobody else was going to give him the money we were offering, so he stayed.
It's so funny reading the cope in here with people thinking these guys are here at a discount because they love the city and want to win. No, they played mercenary roles and are now still here because we gave them the most cash. Nobody wanted Kane, nobody was willing to give Barrie 4.5 mil a year because nobody else could give him endless PP minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl.
Again, the ONLY player who has taken an actual discount to stay here long term as a proud Oiler is Nuge. He might disappear in the playoffs, but he is the one and only on the current team who left money on the table to try and win. Good on him.
bobbythebrain
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He's been a mess in 3 playoffs now.
He had a covid season which really boosted his stats and status.
He's decent in regular seasons, but very underwhelming in the playoffs.
He's overpaid by atleast 2.5mil if you exclude the CCHL season(Canadian Covid Hockey League) in which he stacked his stats
VainGretzky
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JMO but ever since you got ridiculed for the Taylor Hall was building a house and returning your whole posting in here changed from a reasonable poster to stirring the pot for some type of revenge or something. I would just chill and go back to being reasonable
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The only players who come here 'on a discount' are mercenary types who are here to ride shotgun with McDavid, earn a contract, and then try to leave.
Insider Trading: Will Barrie see what the free-agent market has to offer? - TSN.ca
Gerard Gallant is Canada's head coach for the upcoming World Hockey Championships, but could there be an opportunity for him to get back behind an NHL bench? The Oilers have a number of players becoming free-agents this summer, so how close are they to locking up some of their blueliners? TSN...
'
The sense is that Barrie is going to test the free-agent market. He's earned that right and given everything that Ken Holland and the Oilers are going to have to go through with hefty negotiations with Larsson, Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, and others, you need to be able to compare apples to apples.
Tyson Barrie would very much like to stay in Edmonton but he also wants some stability. We're talking about a five- or six-year term, so most likely, he goes to the open market to see what the bigger picture looks like as well.
'
Evander Kane’s agent says Oilers have given him green light to negotiate with other NHL teams - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
Oilers GM Ken Holland last week said he was having daily conversations in a bid to re-sign Kane.
'
The Edmonton Oilers have granted Evander Kane permission to speak with other teams before the NHL’s free agency period opens and Colorado’s Nicolas Aube-Kubel went from celebrating with the Stanley Cup on Saturday to not receiving a qualifying offer from the Avalanche on Monday.
In a text to The Associated Press, Kane’s agent, Daniel Milstein, wrote he’s opening talks with other teams while also continuing discussions with the Oilers with his client eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on Wednesday.
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The only player in my memory who took a cut to play here is Nuge. This is like the people talking about how Brown signed here for ONLY 775k and what a great guy he is, wanting to come here and win a Cup. No, we are paying him 4 million and no other team in the league was ever going to give him that much.
Coincidentally with the two links I posted, neither of those guys chose to play here on a discount to try and win a championship. They both signed here due to a lack of options with the cap not rising in COVID times. They signed here because they had their contracts terminated or they thought an opportunity would arise where they could play here for one year, be given insane McDavid minutes (which they both were) and then reap the rewards in free agency a year later.
Barrie went and tested free agency. Nobody was willing to give him as much money as we were for term, so he was forced to stay here.
Kane went and negotiated with other teams and ALSO found out nobody else was going to give him the money we were offering, so he stayed.
It's so funny reading the cope in here with people thinking these guys are here at a discount because they love the city and want to win. No, they played mercenary roles and are now still here because we gave them the most cash. Nobody wanted Kane, nobody was willing to give Barrie 4.5 mil a year because nobody else could give him endless PP minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl.
Again, the ONLY player who has taken an actual discount to stay here long term as a proud Oiler is Nuge. He might disappear in the playoffs, but he is the one and only on the current team who left money on the table to try and win. Good on him.
You posted thousands of words and none of them added up to "I was wrong about my point".
All you did here was move the goal posts.
Stop doubling down. Either skulk away into the darkness like you seemingly did before or own up that you had a shit take that was disproven very easily. Nothing you said here remotely changes that.
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The fact that Draisaitl was at $8.5M was almost completely irrelevant as far as a ceiling on the Nurse deal was concerned. Draisaitl's deal ends after the 2024-2025 season. Nurse's deal ends 5 years later than that. By the time Nurse's deal is up Leon will have been getting paid much more for half a decade, which is what he deserves.
The real issue is that the team used two bridge deals to set up Nurse in the best bargaining position he could have asked for. There is no way they could let him walk without a viable replacement which they did not have. Yes they would have had cap space. But cap space is only as valuable as what you can get for it. Teams were locking up all their top defenders so it's not like they would have easily replaced him.
No one is arguing that Nurse's deal was a good one. But $1-1.5M more than what one might have reasonably expected hardly requires ridicule. Especially, when Holland had essentially no leverage. He could have rolled the dice and waited. But had he done so there was an even money chance that it would have ended up worse. Now part of this is on him since he gave Nurse the second bridge. And no one will argue that Holland's strength is cap management. But the real culprit in the Nurse contract is Chia. He set the tone with the first bridge and his brutal cap management that set Holland up with little wiggle room for the second bridge.
ujju2
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Probably more accurate to say the Oilers couldn't afford to re-sign both him and Larsson, and chose Larsson over him. When that fell through, we circled back to Barrie, who was always willing to stay.
OilerTyler
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I feel like Chiasson has been on a PTO every year since like 2017
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Weird, he seemed just fine with Ethan Bear.
Even then, for that much money he should be elevating his partner.
WaitingForUser
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Agreed including the Edmonton tax he is at the most 1.5 overpaid. It’s not as bad as people want to make it out to be.
Broberg Speed
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I don't share the positive outlook towards Darnell Nurse that you do. I would have let him walk if he didn't accept ~8.25M. Less than Draisaitl. You don't think that was a kick in the junk to Draisaitl? It upset the pay structure and there needs to be a team hierarchy, and the pay scale is definitely a component of that.
Some players are always going to be levels above other players in many facets on a professional hockey club. Nurse wears the A and he's technically reverting in his defensive skills. This is unacceptable.
I'd strip the A off of Nurse and give it to Ekholm for this upcoming season to demonstrate that the level of his defensive play is unacceptable. Ekholm deserves it more. He's the most sound player on the Oilers if not the damned division. That sort of handling is a necessary part of competitive professional sport.
You have to work harder and perform at a higher level than the other players to maintain your place in the pecking order. The only excuse I will accept for Nurses' play is the man-on-man coverage that is coached. It doesn't matter that his partner was Ceci. Nurse needs to play better and last seasons playoffs isn't a one off either. He has been a vulnerable point for the Oilers in all of the playoffs he's appeared in.
I'm disconcerted sufficiently over the lack of NHL level structure demonstrated, against Vegas in particular, I'd like to see Woodcroft fired.
Be damned with his regular season record. Who's to say we wouldn't have beaten Vegas with more competent coaching? Difficult to win a Stanley Cup with that nonsense no matter who they add to the roster.
The organization should honestly look to Mattias Ekholm for advice on the future direction of the coaching staff. If Ekholm told you a certain coach is one of the best he's ever seen and he's available you wouldn't think long and hard about this players evaluation?
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CantHaveTkachev
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I think he’d be a good fit
No he’s not. He’s overpaid by 1 million.
Mcnotloilersfan
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Which of these 3 Scenarios (all of which would be incredibly helpful) do you think is most likely?
1) Skinner/Soup give us adequate playoff goaltending
2) Broberg or Ceci play well in the 2RD role.
3) Holloway breaks out, easily slides in to the top 6 anytime an injury occurs.
1) Skinner/Soup give us adequate playoff goaltending
2) Broberg or Ceci play well in the 2RD role.
3) Holloway breaks out, easily slides in to the top 6 anytime an injury occurs.
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