Bryanbryoil
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Honestly that could've happened if he signed for $8 million as well. I actually have a lot of respect for Darnell looking after his parents like that.
Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | You're My Boy Bouch!
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duul
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If you think Barrie chose to play here for 3.75 instead of 6 idk what to tell you.
Broberg Speed
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If we had 9.25M freed up long term in cap space instead of the one defenseman with a questionable defensive skill set we could fork over all that money to another defenseman with an even more questionable defensive skill set.
Our GM might as well be the little girl from the Old El Paso taco ad.
We don't need defense, we have expensive defensemen.
Our GM might as well be the little girl from the Old El Paso taco ad.
We don't need defense, we have expensive defensemen.
TopShelfGloveSide
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You asked for proof… there it is.
Bryanbryoil
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How about "you're right"?
He bet on himself being a good fit here and bumping his value even more. It didn't quite work out that way for him even though he had a great season that year.
Understood. Sure with the 9.25 mill in cap space we could've done things. But tell me if there were any top 3 Dmen we could've signed or traded for easily? It's hard to find a Dman like that in free agency or trade. Ekholm was a genius move.
Nurse is overpaid by around 1.5 million in my view. He's around a 7.5 mill Dman. To us, I think he's more because he is vital to our D core
Won't ever forget Barrie. But, Ekholm has been vital to the team so far
I'm just realizing now that I should probably change my username lol
He provided proof.
Where’s yours?
When someone says something and another asks for proof, the burden of proof is on you.
Skolman
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You were literally just proved wrong, take the L and move on.
harpoon
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C’mon man. Really? If you don’t like those links I guess the only proof you would accept is if Tyson himself logged on to confirm.
It was well accepted that Barrie took less to play in Edmonton. And I thank him mightily for it. Barrie is the tier of player (talented, excels at at least one aspect of the game, big enough career earnings that money is no longer the primary motivator, respected by his peers) that this club needs to be able to attract on shorter, cheaper deals. He came into Edmonton and played better than most of this board expected. He was popular with teammates and I suspect he would have stayed here for even less money on his next deal had circumstances been different.
Senor Catface
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If someone asks for proof, then is shown proof, then just continues asking for proof, that's trolling right?
Just wanted to say your Thread Title made me laugh. Thank you.
Hope everyone here is having a great summer with their families.
guymez
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So he wouldnt have been able to get his parents retired if he signed a contract for a more team friendly... $7.5M per season...or even $8M per season?
Or $8.5M per season?
Not buying it.
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I don't think I'd put Drai under the category of leaving money on the table to market value but I still believe he had offer sheets for more money. He had his breakout season that year and was an absolute beast in the playoffs. He was an example of an obvious high tier 1C player, and a smart player to gamble cap space on. Imo Montreal in particular always loved Drai and had cleared cap space specifically to send an offer to Drai. And imo it started with a 9 but maybe a 10 even. This is all speculation of course but it was just extremely obvious that Drai was the best offer sheet target in years, and there are offer sheets we will never heat about.
At the time of him signing I figured out his comparable. It wasn't a high contract. His production and cap percentage was nearly identical to Kopitar's 2nd contract, and Drai gave us 8 years. Not an overpay at the time at all, except according to those who don't look at the nuances.
Edit: also when barkov signed that deal his biggest season was 16 goals and 36 points, and no playoff resume to bargain with. He was in the middle of a breakout season but there was timing favorable to the team. Drai got to the point where we weren't so lucky. Just off that playoff run. He was much closer to a sure thing elite player
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Bryanbryoil
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Exactly what I meant in the post that you quoted. He literally left nothing on the table and took every penny that he could. He was going to be paid handsomely regardless, now he has additional expectations because of how big of a piece of the pie that he took. Is that worth the extra $1.25-$1.75 million a season? Only Darnell knows the answer to that. The fact of the matter is that he signed 2 bridge deals, the first for 2 years at $3.2 million AAV and then the next 2 for $5.6 million AAV. He had $17.8 million for his 4 years after his ELC. He was not in a Michael Bunting type of a situation where he was paid scraps for his production and was due a real payday. Yes he deserved and earned a raise, but as a leader when you take every dollar that you can it screws the bottom of the roster guys, team depth and your chances at winning.
My question is would you rather be known as the guy that took too much and didn't win anything, or the guy that left some $ on the table to win? Either road he chose unless he makes some terrible life decisions he will not need to worry about $ again, neither will his kids or his grandkids, etc.
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Rpenny
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Bouchard has 83pts in regular season and 23 more in the play offs in the last 2 seasons. K Andrea has 63 pts in the regular season and 8 in the playoffs. or 106 pts for Bouchard to 71 by K Andrea. For me there is a difference.
here are the guys on the stats sheet near Bouchard in the regular season over the last 2 seasons
Seth Jones 88pts
Noah Hanifin
Drew Doughty
Evan Bouchard 83
John Klingberg
Hampus Lindholm
Thomas Chabot
Damon Severson 79pts
Playoffs
Only Maker and Fox have more pts from the blueline
from 4 to 10 are
Devon Toews
Victor Hedman
Morgan Rielly
Brandon Montour
Miro Heiskanen
Jaccob Slavin
Justin Schultz
guymez
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I should have worded my post a little better.
I agree completely.
I especially like the bolded.
Cloned
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This is the most boring offseason ever. Like around the league too, not just the Oilers.
1) Can't wait for Bouchard to re-sign with the Oilers
2) Can't wait for the season to start. Rather see fans rip on a player looking like ass from a single shift at this point.
I'll start it off! Goddamnit Lavoie, use your big body frame and hit somebody!!!
Reading posts from several certain posters have been beyond tiresome this summer.
But but but Bouchard character problemsss, but this player didn't take a better offer from a different team, blah blah blah.
And it has been those exact same posters with that crap.
2) Can't wait for the season to start. Rather see fans rip on a player looking like ass from a single shift at this point.
I'll start it off! Goddamnit Lavoie, use your big body frame and hit somebody!!!
Reading posts from several certain posters have been beyond tiresome this summer.
But but but Bouchard character problemsss, but this player didn't take a better offer from a different team, blah blah blah.
And it has been those exact same posters with that crap.
PositiveCashFlow
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At this time I think there is a reasonable case to be made for Miller and Bouchard being in similar tiers. Bouchard does have the points advantage and that does matter but this year Miller had more points in the regular season with 12 more ES ponts. Miller is much more rounded right now. In particular he is an important pk'er, which Bouchard is not right now. He also played a lot more vs top end competition last year and is certainly better defensively at this time. He also did not have the chance to play on the NHL's all time best pp. Holland needs to make these points without diminishing Bouchard's importance to the team.
brentashton
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That would be a first. And a miracle. Don’t hold your breath.
Jumptheshark
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2 weeks till the European leagues start--so I have that to look forward toThis is the most boring offseason ever. Like around the league too, not just the Oilers.
Mix it up a bit.This is the most boring offseason ever. Like around the league too, not just the Oilers.
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