Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Kenny "The Gambler" Holland, You've Gotta Know When to Hold 'Em, Know When to Walk Away, Know When to Sit on Your Thumbs
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Kahkonen has played well over the last month or so.
He has massively better numbers than Blackwood since the Sharks kind of woke up.
Brown healthy scratched tomorrow
Faelko
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I don’t see it, he’s likely what he is at this point. Some goalies take longer to develop obviously but Skinner only succeeds when the team in front of him plays lights out, he rarely, if ever steals a game.
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Another fantastic Holland move lol
Ritchie Valens
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The Knob also has balls. I'm starting to like him more and more. He may not be the "yes man" Woody and Tip were before him.
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The worst part about this is that it was SOOOOO obvious that he wasn't going to be good after his 9 games. Why dress him beyond that? Just send him to the minors, allow his leg to heal, and not be on the hook for million in cap hit next year. He likely would have dominated the AHL, and gotten another contract next offseason, and we would have been clear of the cap hit next year. But NOPE, that blatantly obvious solution was apparently to hard for our GM to figure out. Just a disaster.
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Call today on saros. call again tomorrow. keep calling till they tell you to eff off.
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They have. Trotz says he's planning to extend him in the off-season. This is old news.
They started taking fan calls on Spittin Chiclets and last week a caller asked how long it takes for a player to get back to speed when they miss significant time off (it was when Kane announced he signed in Detroit).
Ryan Whitney said that for players that miss a whole year, it could take about a year to get back to normal.
We should never have guaranteed that much money to Brown in his first year back. His base salary should have been it, and then the $3-4m contract should have been offered the year later.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Here's My 3 changes that I think push the Oilers into full contender mode
Campbell replaced by Merzlikins
Ceci replaced by Durzi
Brown replaced by Granlund
This team finds another level.
Campbell replaced by Merzlikins
Ceci replaced by Durzi
Brown replaced by Granlund
This team finds another level.
frag2
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I mean I get guaranteed money blah blah but ffs, not 10 games as the cutoff for the entire thing. Stagger the bonuses even. Hit 10 games, 1M; 30 games, 1M; 50 games etc etc
But Holland just loves to get ripped off
SupremeTeam16
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There’s a documentary called the defiant ones about music producer Jimmy Iovine and his work in the music industry with a focus on the creation of his own label called Interscope. In the early days he became fixated on signing Trent Reznor and Nine Inch Nails who were already under contract to another label headed by a gentleman named Steve Gotlieb.
Iovine basically locked himself in the bathe room for a month straight, essentially accosting Gotlieb daily, annoying him endlessly wherever he could and just all around making Gotliebs life hell until he realized that he was never going to see any sort of reprieve until he signed over Reznors deal, which he eventually did.
Your comment reminded me of this haha
Faelko
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ARI is currently in a playoff spot and Durzi is an RFA RD who is playing the most minutes for them. There is no way they are trading him right now
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The Campbell contract is absolutely soul crushing. Thinking this team can just fob off $15,000,000 cap hit ($13,500,000 real money) owing is Fantasy Hockey stuff. There's maybe three paths on this...
Buy-Out:
A buy-out is probably most realistic although it f***s the team this year to make meaningful change while carrying his salary in the minors. Team saves its few assets and pays down Campbell forever via The Brick layaway plan.
Mega Asset Chips To The Middle Deal:
Merzlikins $15,775,000 owing after this season (3 years) // Campbell $13,500,000 owing (3 years)
I personally think Merzlikins would thrive in a new winning environment. But C-Bus could likely find a better deal just opting to eat up to 1/2 of Merzlikins' contract ($7,887,500) and cheaper financially than taking on Campbell + $5,612,500 real money. Kekelainen is likely dead man walking so doing a big money deal for an AHL replacement level goaltender is likely a hard sell. Gonna cost Oilers big.
Other mega asset options Askarov (short-term risk he's not quite 1B NHL ready but prospective cornerstone 1A for a decade); Saros (wheel barrel of assets this team doesn't have); etc. Or find a cheap, marginal option like Reimer.
Toxic Contract/Player Exchange:
Something like a Vlasic (ideally + goalie) for Campbell + Kulak deal. Thoughts and Prayer that a faded pedigree malcontent in San Jose can give the Oilers third pairing, 12 minute ice-time that can be bought out next season (or even kept if motivated & effective). Could provide an onboard path for Broberg next season. Frees Oilers to use limited assets for positional upgrades.
In season trades a third of the season in are fairly rare. In season trades for a massively underperforming and overhyped team with no cap space and a $15 million anchor contract is like never country. This is beyond anything Ken Holland has done in 25 years on the job and a true test of Jeff Jackson's new agey thinking of navigating NHL business.
I'd like to believe that Santa Claus is coming. But see above...
Buy-Out:
A buy-out is probably most realistic although it f***s the team this year to make meaningful change while carrying his salary in the minors. Team saves its few assets and pays down Campbell forever via The Brick layaway plan.
Mega Asset Chips To The Middle Deal:
Merzlikins $15,775,000 owing after this season (3 years) // Campbell $13,500,000 owing (3 years)
I personally think Merzlikins would thrive in a new winning environment. But C-Bus could likely find a better deal just opting to eat up to 1/2 of Merzlikins' contract ($7,887,500) and cheaper financially than taking on Campbell + $5,612,500 real money. Kekelainen is likely dead man walking so doing a big money deal for an AHL replacement level goaltender is likely a hard sell. Gonna cost Oilers big.
Other mega asset options Askarov (short-term risk he's not quite 1B NHL ready but prospective cornerstone 1A for a decade); Saros (wheel barrel of assets this team doesn't have); etc. Or find a cheap, marginal option like Reimer.
Toxic Contract/Player Exchange:
Something like a Vlasic (ideally + goalie) for Campbell + Kulak deal. Thoughts and Prayer that a faded pedigree malcontent in San Jose can give the Oilers third pairing, 12 minute ice-time that can be bought out next season (or even kept if motivated & effective). Could provide an onboard path for Broberg next season. Frees Oilers to use limited assets for positional upgrades.
In season trades a third of the season in are fairly rare. In season trades for a massively underperforming and overhyped team with no cap space and a $15 million anchor contract is like never country. This is beyond anything Ken Holland has done in 25 years on the job and a true test of Jeff Jackson's new agey thinking of navigating NHL business.
I'd like to believe that Santa Claus is coming. But see above...
No he’s young and has still played less than 150 NHL games. This isn’t some 31 year old goalie who’s been playing pro for over 8 years. He’s in his first full NHL season. He’s still got 1B potential.
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100%
Arizona's on an upward trajectory and Durzi's done everything they've hoped and more. He's arguably been their most valuable skater and along with Keller and Cooley, in the 'untouchable' grouping.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Kulak is a good player. But he's an expensive one. And teams that are struggling to find cap dollars to address organizational shortfalls can't afford to pay a bottom pairing defender $3m.
Look around the league. Who else does that?
I agree on most of your points. On the Merzlikens deal- the Blue Jackets wouldn’t take on Campbell’s full salary- just his buy out amount- so they would save quite a bit of money.
Ritchie Valens
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He's a stubborn old fool. Brown is the square peg Holland kept trying to smash into a round hole, which is his contract.
Another catastrophic blunder of dead weight eating valuable cap space.
It'd be nice to have a section in the CBA which allows one contract per year to be scrubbed because the player isn't meeting expectations...basically, a nice way of saying fired and becoming a UFA but the catch is it cannot be on a caphit which exceeds $5 million. No buyouts, no cap penalties, just straight up off the books. It's a pipedream though as the NHLPA would never go for anything outside of guaranteed money contracts.
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bellagiobob
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Nice lateral movement, great ‘glove’ hand. Will work for scraps.
Pretty sure Trotz has told Holland to eff off a few weeks ago.
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