It's not going to happen. That's going to create a Sheldon Souray type situation for the team when he inevitably complains to the media that he's healthy enough to play and the Oilers refuse to call him up because of the cap bonus penalty that they fully agreed to.
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It's not going to happen. That's going to create a Sheldon Souray type situation for the team when he inevitably complains to the media that he's healthy enough to play and the Oilers refuse to call him up because of the cap bonus penalty that they fully agreed to.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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The organization has never once earned the benefit of the doubt. The only reason they're even in the conversation for a Stanley Cup is because they won a lottery in 2015.
Jimmi McJenkins
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KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Jimmi McJenkins
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I think waiting until game 9 and hoping he shows steady improvement is still the play at this point, but if that does happen and he still isn't looking like the player who's worth the money we're paying him next year, then we should be waiving him 100%.
Either a team who wants to go all in this year and can fit the penalty in next year takes him for free, or he can agree to mutually terminate his contract and sign with whatever other team is able to wait for him to get up to speed.
I would much rather have the 3m+ in cap space on top of whatever the cap goes up in hopes of keeping our cup dream alive for next season, and grabbing some help at the deadline this year on D with the bit of space losing brown opens up. Once Drai is up for renewal after next season, we're outside our cup window imo. He's going to get a well deserved raise, and we've already seen how poorly this management group handles cap issues.
frag2
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I think its more of the "not play 10 games and trigger bonus dead cap next year" clause
KeithIsActuallyBad
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For sure. Nothing is ever truly a sure thing.
But yeah, those two are the main reason we are where we are today. If the Oilers had even a semblance of good drafting we aren't forced to dole out contracts to the Campbells, Kulaks, and Kanes of the world.
FlameChampion
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I find it amusing how some people ridicule Lavoie for signing 75k extra and how it causes hurdles for the team.
But Browns agent has a 3.225m bonus for simply playing 10g. I honestly hope he gets going. But he needs about 3 more levels before hes a 4m dollar player.
Sometimes you need to make hard decisions. The Oilers will never waive him though. But that’s part of the problem why the organization is at where it’s at. Everyone is too comfortable.
Vegas wouldn’t even think about waiving him if doesn’t pick it up.
Honestly Jackson needs to figure out his plan for this team. I assume Holland won’t be the GM next year. No point saddleing the next GM with a 3m overrage if the team still looks like garbage after the 9g mark.
Maybe Brown should take some responsibility for how he’s playing. Maybe McDavid should take some responsibility for recruiting a player and then not holding the team accountable for the way they are playing.
But Browns agent has a 3.225m bonus for simply playing 10g. I honestly hope he gets going. But he needs about 3 more levels before hes a 4m dollar player.
Sometimes you need to make hard decisions. The Oilers will never waive him though. But that’s part of the problem why the organization is at where it’s at. Everyone is too comfortable.
Vegas wouldn’t even think about waiving him if doesn’t pick it up.
Honestly Jackson needs to figure out his plan for this team. I assume Holland won’t be the GM next year. No point saddleing the next GM with a 3m overrage if the team still looks like garbage after the 9g mark.
Maybe Brown should take some responsibility for how he’s playing. Maybe McDavid should take some responsibility for recruiting a player and then not holding the team accountable for the way they are playing.
This organization needs to decide whether Holland is part of the problem or the solution. If they think he's part of the problem in any way, and they let him Handle the Drai negotiations next year, it could completely cripple any chance we have at being competitive after next season.
Jimmi McJenkins
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They also haven't hit any really true homeruns on depth picks or trades for buylow candidates.
It's very frustrating. I hope they actually DO Something. Frankly, I would call the Caps and try to trade Kane, Janmark and Broberg for Mantha ($1M retained), Dowd and Aube-Kubel
Really make a change with the roster.
Edit: For what it's worth, the Caps are looking for a top-6 forward.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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No they sure haven't. Their scouting is abysmal at all levels. Basically every pick after McDavid except Bouchard is showing nothing at the moment. That alone should warrant some big changes.
Jimmi McJenkins
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We have seen some of it, but without question. I don't know what to do, but they need to do something to shake things up atleast. (Just don't move McDavid, Draisaitl and Nuge)
CantHaveTkachev
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Holland took a non-playoff team to a 50 win team lol
ChaoticOrange
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I think my move would be trading Kulak for a pick. This would enable us to actually ice a full lineup and give Woodcroft the ability to hold some forwards accountable for not giving a shit.
Deal Kulak, call up Lavoie and Pedersen and Gleason, and have them waiting in the wings for the next time a Kane or a Janmark decides to take entire games off.
Deal Kulak, call up Lavoie and Pedersen and Gleason, and have them waiting in the wings for the next time a Kane or a Janmark decides to take entire games off.
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It's kind of funny that the agent for Brown got him that deal that will now screw over the team for which he now presides. It honestly kind of smells.
Did Holland have say in that signing, or was it part of the deal to get Jackson to come over? Only Paul Coffey knows.
KeithIsActuallyBad
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Holland did? Or McDavid/Draisatl did? Because the same issues that are currently plaguing the team (defense, depth scoring, goaltending) are the same things that plagued the team when he began his tenure.
After the Chiarelli debacle they should've cleaned house. Way too many people have overstayed their welcome in this org.
CantHaveTkachev
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if McDrai is responsible for those 50 wins
then McDrai is responsible for the current state of the team
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
McDavid is definitely not off to a great start.
But they're still tasked with some extremely heavy lifting. McDavid was the only one going in games 5/6 against Vegas.
They're not blameless but they're getting zero help from anywhere in the lineup. The defense/goaltending has been atrocious and once again there's zero offense from the bottom six.
ujju2
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Yeah. I haven't minded Drai, Nuge, or Hyman at all tbh. Think all 3 have been good (outside of last night when literally every Oiler sucked). But definitely McDavid, Kane, Brown, Nurse, Ceci, Bouchard, even Ekholm need to pull it together, and soon.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Impossible to argue, atleast Holland did that with quite a bit of the players on the ice, for whatever that's worth.
I'm not trying to stay positive, because reality, I'm trying to stay even keel a bit, because everything is alot lol.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
If anything maybe these early struggles will work out in the long run. Better they struggle now than later on down the road.
But with that said if a bad start led to some firings then that wouldn't be so bad either. Seriously how does Dustin Schwartz still have a job?
Jimmi McJenkins
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Schwartz completely confounds me. I used to defend him a bit, but it's been too long with not much to show. He should just resign if he had any stones.
ujju2
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Kulak shows up in the playoffs though, and we might need that.
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